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Old 20-11-2004, 03:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Its been awhile since last cycle need advice

28 yrs old
6ft 185lbs

Havent done a cycle in about 2 1/2 years maybe 3 years to be exact. Just wanted someon to help me oragnize my setup for about 8-10 weeks. this is what I have and dont necessarily need to use it all.

9 amps testeron depo 250ml per cc 1cc amps
6 deca 100mg per ml 2 ml bottles
180 dbol
Is this a good stack?
Is ther any off teh shelf products/supplements besides protein that will help in keeping water weight down/ bloated look? while maximizing mass gains? How many calorises per day should i be assuming and can anyone recomend a diet for me?
my goal is to go from 185-190 to around 210 and not get to bloated in teh process, I have taken sust, dbol , testeron depot, anadrol, deca, winstrol, but this is all I could get this time and want to get the most gains and look the best at the same time need help with post cylce suggestions I have no clomid or HCG and need it, never had problems in the past and have taken 750 a sust a week at one point. thanks for the help this is my first post, I sied to go to elite fitness but my login doesnt work there and foudn this site tonight. thanks

ALso never injected in anywhere besides the glutes is it better to inject in any other certain areas for better gains?

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Old 20-11-2004, 03:48 AM   #2 (permalink)
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you have 3 weeks worth of deca and 4 1/2 weeks of test...
definately get some clomid and nolvadex...
where you inject wont make a difference as to gains
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Old 20-11-2004, 04:04 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I have ben thinking about how to tak eit all and havent figured that all out yet and needed advie on what woudl be the best way to stack it, I was gonna do it liek this

week 1 500mg enathate and 20-25mg dbol
week 2 500mg enathate and 20-25mg dbol
week 3 200mg deca 250mg enathate 20-25mg dbol
week 4 200mg deca 250mg enathate 20-25mg dbol
week 5 200mg deca 250mg enathate 20-25mg dbol
week 6 200mg deca 250mg enathate 20-25mg dbol
week 7 200mg deca 250mg enathate 15-20mg dbol
week 8 200mg deca

was thinking about getting some type of anti estrogen to help with water retention and fight off gyno but never had problems with it in the past and dont want none either, if this is way ofdf base please advise on a better way to take it. thank you
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Old 20-11-2004, 04:25 AM   #4 (permalink)
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well,id run the dbol the first 4 weeks...not for 7
i guess id start the deca at week 1...i feel its better to run test a week or 2 past the deca..
the doses are rather low for someone who has a few cycles under their belt..
how many cycles have you ran?
how long have you been serious about training?
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Ive been lifting for a longtime, the last cycle i did was over 2 1/2 years ago. I have done 3 cycles in the past, the last time was right after i got out of the military.
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start the deca from week one and finish it b4 the test as deca needs test to make it work more efficently and deca on its own=mr floppy in many cases
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start the deca from week one and finish it b4 the test as deca needs test to make it work more efficently and deca on its own+mr floppy in many cases
yep do your cycle as planned with the change mentioned above ^
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thanks guys,, thats what I was looking for.... so is this looks like the best way to do it?? should i take more dbol and end it early liek around week 6?

week 1 400mg deca and 20-25mg dbol
week 2 400mg deca and 20-25mg dbol
week 3 400mg deca and 20-25mg dbol
week 4 500mg enathate 20-25mg dbol
week 5 500mg enathate 20-25mg dbol
week 6 500mb enathate 20-25mg dbol
week 7 500mb enathate 20-25mg dbol
week 8 500mg enathate

ive read alot about anti estrogens but havent figured wich is the best, Im concerned about water retention and gyno. Ive never experiienced any signs of gyno in the past but do not want any problems. but i have had water retention in the past and didnt liek the look at all.
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nearly there lol

take test&deca from week one together with the dbol!

how about doin a shot of test 250 and 200 deca every 4 days, makes it easy then, 25 mg dbol till it runs out,this gives u...
437.5mg a week of test
and 350mg of deca, easy that way, plenty to grow on also

get some clomid aswell mate imo

some suffer with water retention some dont the same with gyno, nolvadex is the most common anti estrogen used,proviron and arimidex can also b used, although arimidex is outrageously expensive!

proviron i've heard can help with sex drive aswell,

good luck with ur cycle mate
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