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Old 08-11-2004, 03:28 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Next cycle, Sust and dbol ideas please.

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I am thinking of running a cycle in the new year. My last one was a year ago and was
week 1 500mg sust+400mg deca
weeks 2-8 250mg sust+200mg deca

before that I have also run a low does dbol only.

I was thinking of a simple sust with some dbol throw in for good measure. However I dont want to be on to long. Most say 8-10 weeks of sust but due to the esters thats more like 13 weeks and then after pct 16 or more which is too long for me.

So I was thinking of loading up the first week then drop down and let the esters do the work. I know I could still make gains on 250mg per week and I don't see the point in upping the dose for the sake of it but how is this

I am 6ft 220lbs.

week 1 1000mg sust
weeks 2-6 250mg sust e4/5d
weeks 6-9 20mg dbol pd(to see out the sust)
weeks 9-11 pct clomid + novla

Do you think I should do 500mg per week or less? Like I said it know I could gain on less but I would like 15 lbs from this cycle.

I am also thinking of running 10mg nolva during as I already have a bit of gyno. I might also run 20mg dbol for the first 2 weeks as well depending on what dose I load with.

I know some might suggest different compounds for shorter cycles or more frequent jabs for sust but I want to keep it simple.

Thanks for you ideas.
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I think you may have your gear the wrong way round and your doses are a bit up and down. A 1000mg frontload on week 1 is crazy.....If you want to jumpstart your cycle take the D-bol from the start to get that strength and mass moving. Why don't you want to do 8 weeks cycle? Only another 2 weeks extra of you proposed cycle and will give those longer acting esters more time to make a difference.
My suggestion is:

20-30mg ED D-bol week 1-4
500mg sust/week (Mon & Thurs) week 1-8
Nolvadex to hand if youre gyno prone
Clomid PCT
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yes, the load is a little too excesive

the way the 4 esters work will make a massive test spike weeks 1 and 2, then drop down to not much at all

try
weeks 1-6 500mg sust

weeks 1-2 30-40mg dbol ED

weeks 7-10 30-40mg dbol ED

weeks 11-13 PCT
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Good advice there and basicly what i was gonna say
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Yeah I think I will do what jimmy said. That was my first idea but I just changed the first lot of dbol for a frontload as I wanted to do a shorter cycle.

I will probably go for it in the new year and then cut a bit ready for the summer.

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I would say weeks 1-4: 500mg sust/wk + 35mg Dbol/ed, weeks 4-8: 500mg sust/wk

By week 4 sustanon should have kicked in.
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