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    How to reduce post injection pain(pip).

    Post injection pain can literally be a pain in the butt, amongst other places.
    Hygiene and sterility, pre injection is obviously paramount in avoiding PIP.
    We all know what that means, for those who don't it's in the stickies.

    Ok, for the last month iv'e been using the Z track method and found that PIP especially in my quads is practically non-existent.

    How to employ the Z track method?
    Firstly get your injection point, then pull the skin across or down from that point, this moves the cutaneous and subcutaneous tissues a centimetre or two, this helps reduce the sensitivity of nerve endings, remembering to keep an eye on the injection point.

    Next insert the needle sharply in at a 90dg angle to the depth you need.
    Inject the steroid (after aspirating) at a rate of about 10 secs/ml, when fully injected keep the needle in place for another 10secs, so allowing the steroid to seep into the muscle.
    Remove the syringe quickly, at exactly the angle you went in and release the skin, this is what stops any of your steroid leaking out and reduces bleeds, then apply a little pressure to the area, but don't massage the area immediately afterwards, wait a couple of minutes or you can cause some of the oil to be released back up the needle track and into subcutaneous tissue, which can lead to swelling and PIP.

    Exercising the muscle afterwards will assist the absorption of the steroid by increasing blood flow to the area.

    Finally, if you know where and how to inject safely into the ventrogluteal muscle, this is the best choice as there are no major nerves or blood vessel.
    Last edited by Mars; 29-06-2009 at 10:51 PM.

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    Re: How to reduce post injection pain(pip).

    looking forward to trying this later on. thanks

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    Re: How to reduce post injection pain(pip).

    Excellent info mate, Very very Excellent. Reps.

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    Re: How to reduce post injection pain(pip).

    Quote Originally Posted by redman View Post
    Excellent info mate, Very very Excellent. Reps.
    Cheers redman, you kind of gave me the idea with your sticky, i think it would make a good prologue.

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    Re: How to reduce post injection pain(pip).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPp28ZGgobw

    is this what you mean about moving the layers apart?

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    Re: How to reduce post injection pain(pip).

    Quote Originally Posted by bb the great View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPp28ZGgobw

    is this what you mean about moving the layers apart?
    Nice, love those gloves and hand technique, she can jab me anytime

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    Re: How to reduce post injection pain(pip).

    10secs per ml injection speed? i do about 30-40 secs otherwise i find it hurts more after..

    i also find a very gentle massage to be beneficial to reducing pain..

    so i do the complete opposite to what the article says! whoops!

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    Re: How to reduce post injection pain(pip).

    Who worte the article?

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    Re: How to reduce post injection pain(pip).

    To reduce the pain i massage the jab site with a fresh swab for about a minute.

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    Re: How to reduce post injection pain(pip).

    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Torch View Post
    Who worte the article?
    I did, from information gathered on the Z track method and IM injection protocol for the NHS.

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    Re: How to reduce post injection pain(pip).

    Quote Originally Posted by DB View Post
    10secs per ml injection speed? i do about 30-40 secs otherwise i find it hurts more after..

    i also find a very gentle massage to be beneficial to reducing pain..

    so i do the complete opposite to what the article says! whoops!
    Yeah well thats cause your a girly DB
    I always did the same up till a month ago, but have found this method has really reduced PIP.

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    Re: How to reduce post injection pain(pip).

    Quote Originally Posted by Ollie B View Post
    To reduce the pain i massage the jab site with a fresh swab for about a minute.
    Me too,(used to) but looking at it, the method does make sense.

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    Re: How to reduce post injection pain(pip).

    This method is the dogs! I just had the sweetest inj ever cheers mate!
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    Re: How to reduce post injection pain(pip).

    Quote Originally Posted by DB View Post
    10secs per ml injection speed? i do about 30-40 secs otherwise i find it hurts more after..

    i also find a very gentle massage to be beneficial to reducing pain..

    so i do the complete opposite to what the article says! whoops!
    40 seconds per mil?? must feel like forever when you put 3+ ml in!!
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    Re: How to reduce post injection pain(pip).

    how many days do you have to leave a site before re-using it?? if only using 2-3 ml shots?

 

 
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