DGtattkid

Hello all. Given that I simply don't have local access to suppliers, and I'm a little put-off ordering internationally, I haven't done any real cycles. I did get some Bionabol several years ago, did them solo (I know, bad idea) and lost everything I'd gained. Here in the states, I recently did a 30 day cycle of "Tren X-treme", became angry all the time, gained about 10lbs and had some strength gains. I've been off it for a week, and so far haven't "crashed" strength wise, although the bodyweight is down a little.

Earlier last week, a friend gave me some BD 5mg dbols. I've got enough to take 20mg a day for 4 weeks. Seeing as how me coming across any injectables (I would prefer to get some deca, as I don't want to repeat the last time I took dbols) isn't likely to happen, I was thinking of taking them in conjunction with more of the Tren X-treme. Is this a good idea, or a bad one. Thanks in advance for the advices. Here is a pic of the dbols

DGtattkid

I forgot to mention, I'm 35, I've been lifting for something like 13 years. I'm 6', 260lbs. Mostly into strength training, but as I get older, I'm shifting a little more towards "bodybuilding" with a little focus still on strength. Thanks again

DGtattkid

This is a recent pic, at around 265lbs

Robsta

Are you on about British Dispensary, as BD (British Dragon) don't do 5 mg dbol mate...
The look like brit disp, but the packaging looks different to what I've seen of them. If you are not used to cycles mate, I'd give the tren a miss as it is quite toxic and due to the aggression it can bring is more of an advanced AAS.
Tren on it's own isn't great either, unless you're using it for cutting up.
Much better to look into a test cycle mate....
Also, use the search or look at the sticky at the top of this forum and it will give advice on PCT (post cycle therapy) which willhelp you keep more of your gains and get your test levels back to normal after a cycle......
Keep us informed anyway dude...

andysutils

that tren-xtreme sounds like pro hormone **** which id avoid anyway, i wouldnt do the dbol either.

if you can, get yourself on some test mate and as said above, research the stickies on pct and test cycles etc and see whats best for you.

NeilpWest

Mate dont slag them off and not give a reason why. Many people have used superdrol epidrol etc and have had great gains and little sides. I have used a few and like them to kick start a cycle as i dont rate dbol.

Con

Nothing wrong with prohormones BUT there arent many of those around any more. That tren stuff is an oral steriod and probably quite harsh on the body but its certaintly not ****.

My problem with your plan is if you cant get real gear what will you use for a real pct? Perhaps you wouldnt need a pct after that stuff but i still think it would be smart to do at least a small one.

DGtattkid

Ordering online for things like Nolva and clomid don't really bother me. I would just hate to get some deca and end up injecting god knows what into my ****. I took some Gaspari Novadex and whatnot to come off the Tren Xtreme, but you are right, even if the tren is a little "less serious" than dbol, I still will be ordering some Nolva and clomid. Maybe I will order some Deca and post them up for everyone's scrutiny before I put needle to ass.

Thanks for the replies.

Con

IF you do order injectables make the bulk of your buy test not deca as deca only cycles is a big no no for every one.
Your probably thinking of the old deca and dbol cycle that is spoken about in a lot of old steriod books, that cycle is rubbish compared to "modern" test and deca cycle.

DGtattkid

You're right. It seems like the normal "beginner" cycle is dbol and deca, but I'd rather not waste my time. Care to outline a decent cycle involving the dbol I currently have (I was thinking of ordering another 100) and test? I'd like to know what I need to be ordering. Thanks in advance.

DGtattkid

I should mention this will be my first time using injectables, but I'm not afraid of using them. Rather that than blowing out my liver.

andysutils

im not, i said id avoid them NOT avoid them, just that nobody knows what the long term effects are, of prohormonoes but i am still tempted to try them for some mad reason

Con

Some thing like...
Weeks 1-12 500mg test enthanate per week
Weeks 1-4(this could be run with out problem for another 1-4 weeks if you are using liver protectants such as liv 52 and not drinking alcohol to any large degree) 30mg dbol per day
After last shot of test do 500iu shots of hcg every other day for 14 days(7 shots total) this is shot under the skin not intermuscular like the test.
Once these 14 days have passed...
14 days of 100mg clomid followed by
14 days 50mg clomid
Starting on the first day of clomid 20mg nolvadex for a total of five weeks thus one week longer than clomid.
During the pct tribulas and dhea are good additions to keep sex drive going.
While on cycle i wouldnt bother with anti eostrogens as its doubtfull you will need them but if you want to be very cautious (realising nolva is toxic and your rather off it than on it) 10mg nolva per day.
Other good suppluments while on are hawthorn berries, garlic, niacin and any thing else you want to throw in for blood pressure and cholestrol management (not used by most people these suppluments can go a long way in prevention of any problems).

BTW looking very solid and big in your avatar, liking that tats also!

DGtattkid

Thanks for the great reply. I have asked someone local who had off-hand mentioned maybe knowing someone, but other than than working out, I'll be placing an order online. I'll post pics of the gear to see what everyone thinks. Thanks again.

Harry

As you are in the states mate you are better trying to find a source who is local, do you train at a gym? If so start making friends with guys who are established in that gym.