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Old 06-07-2008, 07:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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noob. mass cycle & pct?

hi all.

apologies for my first post being a question.

i used to train regulary until a couple of years ago when i injured my back (which is now spot on).

i have recently returned to training in the gym (about 3 months ago) and im making good gains. although i have a fairly solid base to work from i do have a bit of a belly and love handles which im not overly concerened about at the moment. excess body fat is limited to my torso.

what i am planning on doing in a few months time, around october(which incidentaly coincides with my trip to egypt) is start on a cycle.

i have exp of using test which i did a few cycles of a few years ago with no problems.

admitedly i didnt do my research back then and knew nothing of PCT. this time im doing my research but it all gets a bit confusing with all the contradictory information out there.

i have been recomended this cycle by a friend of a friend for bulking up and wondered what you guys had to say about it?

in addition i have added the pct part which was not included with the cycle.

comments and advice are much appreciated.

thanks in advance

week of DECA DURABOLIN SUSTANON DIANABOL HCG 5000 CLOMID NOLVADEX
cycle 200mg vial 250mg amp 5mg tab I.U. 50mg 20mg
1 1 vial/week 1 amp/week 5 tabs/day
2 1 vial/week 1 amp/week 6 tabs/day
3 2 vials/week 1 amp/week 7 tabs/day
4 2 vials/week 1 amp/week 8 tabs/day
5 2 vials/week 2 amps/week 9 tabs/day
6 3 vials/week 2 amps/week 10 tabs/day
7 2 vials/week 2 amps/week 8 tabs/day
8 2 vials/week 1 amp/week 6 tabs/day
9 1 vial/week 1 amp/week 4 tabs/day
10 1 amp/week 2 tabs/day 1 tab/day
11 1 amp/week 2 tabs/day 1 tab/day
12 2 tabs/day 1 tab/day
13 2 tabs/day 1 tab/day




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Old 06-07-2008, 07:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: noob. mass cycle & pct?

welcome mate

If you are fat, i wouldnt bulk..but thats just my thoughts...and of course you gain more mass when you are lean

As for the cycle I would say either

all test 1-10 at 250-500mg per week PCT 3 weeks after
all test 1-10 at 250-500mg per week PCT 3 weeks after but use 20-30mg of dbol ED for first 4 weeks
all test 1-10 at 250-500mg per week PCT 3 weeks after and maybe DECA up to week 9 although DECA would be better to week 11 and sust to 12

I think the cycle is not required and i dont like the ramping theory

PCT IMO should be 3 weeks after last sust shot, not as per chart above and HCG in the last week of shots

post your diet and training for help
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Re: noob. mass cycle & pct?

Id say as above pic a dose and stick with it and dont think there is any need for tapering in this cycle. Id say sust at 500mg and deca at 400mg with dbol between 30-40mg a day pct as lost soul said.
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