The stigma of aas - Page 2 - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

Anders · 29-09-2004, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ShowMe

You'll find that a lot of people will puff on a cig and munch on a big mac while they give you their take on the health risks of aas.

Hehe, very true. Plenty of research on effects of smoking, drinking and now with the conveniently timed "Supersize Me" film that is currently out over here!

winger · 29-09-2004, 03:41 AM

Gear and no training will put on more muscle than some one that didn't take gear and trained. Double blind study.;)

winger · 29-09-2004, 03:45 AM

Lets add about 40 pounds on a big cycle and tell me what your heart is saying?
If any of you imply that gear is ok and has no effect than I beg to differ.
What if you go to your 10 year reunion with no hair? Hell what about a little gyno?
I heard that once you take gear your blood profile will not be the same.

winger · 29-09-2004, 03:55 AM

lol i agree but

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Originally Posted by ShowMe
had to do a quick edit because I has written "ass" a few times instead of "aas"...whoops. I can't see great gains coming from heavy "ass" use, lol.:p

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i think winger would argue that point with you

, just kidding winger;) .

Oh no problem. The best gains mate. I think about are about 1g of ass mate, a week, no more..............lol. If that dosn't sound so gay...........sorry.

ShowMe · 29-09-2004, 04:47 AM

Winger, what you say is right. I don't think anybody is saying that there isn't a level of inherent risk with taking aas. We all know there is. I think it's more so toward the fact that those who have used steriods have still put in the hard yards both with training and diet.

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Gear and no training will put on more muscle than some one that didn't take gear and trained. Double blind study.

Do you have more info on this study because I would be interested in looking into it. I just can't see how muscle can grow if not stimulated, or with insuffient fuel (quality food) to facilatate the growth.

damagedgoods · 29-09-2004, 09:41 AM

without a doubt there is a lot of stigma about AAS. As stated before - it is down to how the media have portrayed it, and also a large % of the people who use them (I'll cover that later).... if people research it correctly they soon will discover it is not a magic bullet for muscle growth - it is mearly another supplement - OK it is the most effective one!. They will also find out that there are side effects, and that these can be managed and if done correctly will have very limited health risks - the age old arguement of read the side of a packet of asprin springs to mind.

The only people I talk about my use with is other people who use it. Reason being is that I don't have to try and justify myself to them. I'm shocked by some of the conversations that I have with some (if not most) of the guys.. they have done little or no research and don;t understand how they will be affected by aas. I for one always do my homework before taking ANYTHING, as I know the other members on here do. Why they don't read more on the subject I will never know - the internet is such a valuable resource fo theis type of info.... Insted they rely on the info they get form their supplier. 99% of the guys I talk to do not know what PCT is. It is only when I go online that I ever hear stuff like that.

I'm not suprised that people have a dim view of steroid use, considering most of the people I know who use are little better than highly muscled monkeys! There is one guy who I used to work with on the door, we were talking about gear and he was telling me what I 'should be doing'... I didn't say a word about it as I was stunned to silence by his ignorance- he was using 1750mg of sust per week,dbol, 1200mg of decca, HGH and Slin - he wasn;t a massive guy by any means - he never did PCT, and he woudl often foret to tkae his shot or dbol, lets say he forgot to take the dbol for 1 day, he would simply double the dosage the following day, oh and he would always take them at the same time, rather than split up over the day. I asked him about where he prefers to shoot into - his response was - well I read on the internet this really good article on injecting and it is best to inject into a joint or between your muslces!!!! I couldn't believ what I was saying... I asked one of my other friends about this, he is a bit more switched on, in fact he was the guy he used to sell him the stuff... he told me he refused to sell him any more as thsi guy was a muppet and didn't do things properly.... One of the other guys has a bit of an issue with agression (even when he is not taking AAS) when he is doing a cycle he is uncontrolable, last time he did sust he was arrested twice in his 3rd week....

As time has passed I've been able to educate some of the chaps about how they should be doing cycles, and slowly it is getting through... but with people like those above and with the 'shock' stories in the press very few people will ever really knwo what it is all about... I do hate it when I hear people talking, the conversation is normally like:

person 1.) Wow - look at that guy, he is massive.

person 2.) well it is because he takes steroids. if I took them I'd be like that. (said as they light up another cig and order their 7th pint)

---- Rant over -------

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29-09-2004, 03:41 AM	#17 (permalink)
winger UK-Muscle Male Animal Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 10,413 Blog Entries: 1	Gear and no training will put on more muscle than some one that didn't take gear and trained. Double blind study.;)

29-09-2004, 03:45 AM	#18 (permalink)
winger UK-Muscle Male Animal Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 10,413 Blog Entries: 1	Lets add about 40 pounds on a big cycle and tell me what your heart is saying? If any of you imply that gear is ok and has no effect than I beg to differ. What if you go to your 10 year reunion with no hair? Hell what about a little gyno? I heard that once you take gear your blood profile will not be the same.

29-09-2004, 09:41 AM	#21 (permalink)
damagedgoods Looking Freaky Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wisbech Posts: 763	without a doubt there is a lot of stigma about AAS. As stated before - it is down to how the media have portrayed it, and also a large % of the people who use them (I'll cover that later).... if people research it correctly they soon will discover it is not a magic bullet for muscle growth - it is mearly another supplement - OK it is the most effective one!. They will also find out that there are side effects, and that these can be managed and if done correctly will have very limited health risks - the age old arguement of read the side of a packet of asprin springs to mind. The only people I talk about my use with is other people who use it. Reason being is that I don't have to try and justify myself to them. I'm shocked by some of the conversations that I have with some (if not most) of the guys.. they have done little or no research and don;t understand how they will be affected by aas. I for one always do my homework before taking ANYTHING, as I know the other members on here do. Why they don't read more on the subject I will never know - the internet is such a valuable resource fo theis type of info.... Insted they rely on the info they get form their supplier. 99% of the guys I talk to do not know what PCT is. It is only when I go online that I ever hear stuff like that. I'm not suprised that people have a dim view of steroid use, considering most of the people I know who use are little better than highly muscled monkeys! There is one guy who I used to work with on the door, we were talking about gear and he was telling me what I 'should be doing'... I didn't say a word about it as I was stunned to silence by his ignorance- he was using 1750mg of sust per week,dbol, 1200mg of decca, HGH and Slin - he wasn;t a massive guy by any means - he never did PCT, and he woudl often foret to tkae his shot or dbol, lets say he forgot to take the dbol for 1 day, he would simply double the dosage the following day, oh and he would always take them at the same time, rather than split up over the day. I asked him about where he prefers to shoot into - his response was - well I read on the internet this really good article on injecting and it is best to inject into a joint or between your muslces!!!! I couldn't believ what I was saying... I asked one of my other friends about this, he is a bit more switched on, in fact he was the guy he used to sell him the stuff... he told me he refused to sell him any more as thsi guy was a muppet and didn't do things properly.... One of the other guys has a bit of an issue with agression (even when he is not taking AAS) when he is doing a cycle he is uncontrolable, last time he did sust he was arrested twice in his 3rd week.... As time has passed I've been able to educate some of the chaps about how they should be doing cycles, and slowly it is getting through... but with people like those above and with the 'shock' stories in the press very few people will ever really knwo what it is all about... I do hate it when I hear people talking, the conversation is normally like: person 1.) Wow - look at that guy, he is massive. person 2.) well it is because he takes steroids. if I took them I'd be like that. (said as they light up another cig and order their 7th pint) ---- Rant over -------