dru0111

Is the simple answer to the chaps original question not - Yes take the Dianabol! After all if he gets his training and diet semi sorted he will gain more muscle mass on a cycle of dbol regardless of years of natural training behind him. Surely its no more dangerous for a beginner to take than a pro, assuming dosage and PCT are in check?! Afterall this guy wants to get big in the fastest time poss, regardless of gains not sticking and side effects!

dru0111

LS - Can you tell me how

Mrdaveyk

im sure you'd agree though dru that this is not a healthy frame of mind

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poc2k8

all i know is my cousin was same build as me. only way i can describe my build is normal. standard everyday type. and he went from that to ridiculously huge in 6months on roids.

and my goal to get to the size i want to get too is my nxt b-day which is febuary. so 7 months of which ever way i decide to do it. have no idea in lbs what id like to gain but if i had to point a size out in pictures id have to choose mrdaveyk display picture big

dru0111

I definately agree with you mate, however, I don't think this guy gives two sh1ts about his health:

"But recently iv had this MASSIVE urge to get BIG. i dont really care about muscle tone or strength or being fit if im on honest. I wouldnt care if it was pure water retention or muscle"

poc2k8

finally,lol someone who understands me. dru!! thats all i needed. someone to say "yep sure you can take them without requirying years or training behind you, and yes you will recieve ridiculous amounts of gains in a short space of time" lol music to my ears, or should i say display to my computer screen?? :S

all id like to know is am i safe enough if i get my PCT sorted and my diet sorted? the results and gains are obvious too me as iv seen many friends do it so i know they work and work well!

all im scared of is taking them a week and dropping dead the next,lol

Lost Soul

Sure:

Walk to the benefits office
Show your Polish passport
Plonk 4-5 semis starving screaming kids on the counter
State you have no home or job and you have come to pick up your annual handout from the british government

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Mrdaveyk

dont use my avatar, i used a supplement called good lighting lol

im not huge dude, i just have a fairly low bodyfat and have eaten my calories and lifted heavy

im not on gear mate, but you seem to have already made up your mind, all im going to say is read up before use

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dru0111

Hahahahaha.

To the mental guy who will be taking dianabol, get the diet and training sorted, read through some mass gaining routines and work out how many calories you will need to eat to grow (plenty of info on this site), make sure you understand all the side effects, if you take orals, don't drink and I think milk thistle will help the liver. I would make a new and sensible thread in the steroid section just simply asking for advice on a cycle and what the best PCT would be as many people will refuse to advise you on this considering your background and attitude. I have never taken AAS and I hope I never will. Have fun getting big, bold and sterile.

Blofeld

It seems to me that your going to take them regardless of any advice anyone on these forums is going to give you. Why bother asking us if you are going to be safe and not drop dead? Your mates were obviously safe and are still alive.... they seem to be the reason your going to be taking them.

I wish you the best of luck, hope you don't do your body any real damage, and hope you learn a few lessons along the way which may help you in the future.

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poc2k8

ok 3 quarters of that was helpful thx duno wats with the mental guy bit. whats mental about the subject. im sure theres thousands of people like me and im also sure this forum will have seen alot of em come and go,lol i dont drink so i guess thats on my side? last time i drank was my bday which was obviously febuary

ParaManiac

unfortunately yes

Now i suggest you take the advice given and stop insulting our intelligence or go and find another forum to annoy.

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Mrdaveyk

id start a new thread mate in the AAS section with the required questions

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dru0111

Is it just me who thinks this guy is mental? if so I will take that back.