Mrdaveyk

too true

you have mentioned mass gainers but they only really work if supported by a good diet (thats not an entirely true statement but you shouldnt be relying on a mass gainer)

i was always a small git, but since joining here and getting my diet up to par did i start to grow

ive put on over a stone now and all mates comment on my increase in shoulders and chest etc

ive even made packs of yobos back down which i could never of done two years ago, but that aside mate, i know what you want i used to be the same, i used to think if i get really fat i can turn it into muscle

get a nice bulking diet down you with a good PWO meal/shake and you will see results much quicker than relying on a mass gainer

not forgetting training hard and heavy

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poc2k8

not sure if u know wat i mean. im not intrested in gaining strength as a priority or getting ripped or any other fitness type of things,lol i just want to from normal to WABANG! in as quickly as possible


ahh uv replyed before i cud post,lol
is it safe to use?

Ziricote

Have you tried food?

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poc2k8

^^theres always one isnt there,lol

nehoo.... lets say my mind in the end does swing towards using them. is it safe enough for me personally? ie; lets say i use my new multi gym 1 hour a day every day for 2weeks using nothing more than weight gain and food.then on the third week start using dinobol

ShaunMc

I wanna win the lottery and never work again but its not going to happen ... just as you will never get big with that attitude mate.... steroids do not build muscles .. hard training and good food will. Leave the gear alone till you see what hard work and diet can do. You have made a good move in buying some weights equipment .. work out a good mass building routine and organise yoursel so that you can eat lots of good food.

once you get to know your body , and how it responds to training then maybe reassess the steroid question,..... but what you are considering at the moment is a recipe for disaster mate. if building muscle was that easy every bloke on the planet would be sporting 20 inch biceps

as ronnie said "everybody wants big muscles , nobody wants to lift big **** heavy weights"

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Lost Soul

Ive gone from feeling for you to thinking 'usual bill bicep boy'

Crack on mate, I dont think you are in the right place TBH and if you do want help please articulate yourself in a more suitable fashion as you are making yourself sound like a 12 year old tw4tting about with his mobile.

If you are not willing to subscribe to at least 12 months training and quality eating then I think all responses will be not the ones you want to hear.

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Mrdaveyk

its a miss conception that arnie and coleman etc are huge because they use gear

as shaun pointed out in a previous thread of his, people of little body building knowledge over look the diet and hard training they have to go through to get amazing results in terms of mass or strength or general being big as you want

steroids right now are going to do jacksh!t to you mate as a good solid base diet is needed and some general good understanding of what you are taking

you are putting yourself in harms way with this attitude of take gear to get big i cant warn you enough

we can only advise you here and of course as a member of uk-m we are trying to keep you safe so bite the bone mate and accept you wont get mass quickly, patience is your best friend in this game mate

sure you can eat alot and get 'big' but a big belly and small arms isnt impressive mate

so the choice is up to you really

good diet, training routine and patience (months if done correctly) and you may see some great gains in terms of bulking, mass and strength

or go down the road ignorance and take gear to get hardly any results that wont last and also possible health issues

hope im not offending you as i can see you are quite determined to get quick results, but its never that easy mate

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Lost Soul

Well everyone knows that how silly.
I think the majority accept its down to 1 lot of NO explode in the morning 2 of cell mass in the evening and syntha 6 before bed

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Mrdaveyk

haha LS dont say that because sometimes i cant even tell if you are joking around

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Ziricote

Y'know, you weigh around half a stone more than me but say you haven't been to the gym ever really so I'm curious what your bodyfat percentage is, or even just your waist measurement.

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chrisj22

deffo wind up.

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poc2k8

well strangely enough im not fat. its weird, i do have a little bit of a belly podge i spose but nothing big.

and before everyone starts thinking the same as lost soul said above "usual bill bicep boy" the only reason i even contimplated it is because im not a gym freak who lives,breaths,eats,sleeps the gym. my hobbie is cars not to win the next strongman competition. (and thats not a dig at people whos hobbie is the gym) im just saying its not my hobbie, i look at it more of a way to reach a goal.

just the same as kitting up my car, i do a certian amount of overtime at work to afford certian parts on certian dates. i think of this the exact same. i have an ideal size id like to be in my head and am 100% focused on doing what i need to do to get to that size on the deadline iv given myself. once iv reached that size ill stop and just do a smaller amount of going on the weights to keep that size. get no bigger, no smaller etc etc...

Paul

you must be taking the **** now right? Yeh im sure 2 weeks of training naturally will get you to your natural limit and you will be KEWL to use roids

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Mrdaveyk

tell us your goal or image you get in you head then?

how much fat or muscle are you aiming to put on in lbs and whens the deadline?

how are you going to do it in terms of diet or supplements and how will you maintain your finished product?

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Lost Soul

I was messing around.... of course i was:





It was nitrotech and gakic


Crap analogy

If I gave you a kit car at 7am and said "have it ready to race at 5pm" you could build it to the best it can possibly be as a skilled mechanic...time is not an issue

If I said you need £1m in your bank by 5pm and you have £1 at 9am you can do that too

The body though simply cannot synthesise protein at the rate we want and therefore it takes months and years.

Its like instead of giving you a kit car a packet of seeds and saying having a fcuking tree by 5pm...can you do that? no but you can build a kit car

Did you never watch blue peter when they said "this is one i made earlier?"

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