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bigacb · 14-06-2008, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjb1

you can always make natural gains steroids arnt the doo's all ends all

maybe not on pct but eventually once the water has gone you would start to improve with a good diet and training routine

then these very small improvements if made would be alot larger while back on cycle

Not really. Lets look at it from one extreme to another. For example: any pro BBer when off AAS will never gains naturaly again. Its not possible for a guy who is 20st at 5'10" ripped to gain muscle whilst off. Where as someone who has done one course eventually they will probably gain again. I no these are extremes but i believe once someone is past there natural limit then this is the issue.

**Jimmy** · 14-06-2008, 11:14 PM

it also depends on how long you take between cycles too

if one were to take a year off....then yes, once recovered fully the body would start to gain well

its a very broad question really

think like this

natrually someone can only hope to gain around half a pound of real muscle every 1-2 months...so the gains are natrual, but not really very easilly noticed

now take someone just coming off a cycle, and think of the shutdown, and how long it takes to fully recover....now think of the slow gains after this....before the gains come, one is usually back on gear again!!!!

but lets not foget this....not all gains on cycle are purely down to gear

a portion of the tissue will be responsible to a good diet/training regime

bigacb · 15-06-2008, 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy

it also depends on how long you take between cycles too

if one were to take a year off....then yes, once recovered fully the body would start to gain well

its a very broad question really

think like this

natrually someone can only hope to gain around half a pound of real muscle every 1-2 months...so the gains are natrual, but not really very easilly noticed

now take someone just coming off a cycle, and think of the shutdown, and how long it takes to fully recover....now think of the slow gains after this....before the gains come, one is usually back on gear again!!!!

but lets not foget this....not all gains on cycle are purely down to gear

a portion of the tissue will be responsible to a good diet/training regime

Couldnt agree more.

jjb1 · 15-06-2008, 10:43 AM

thanks jimmy exactly what i said, not during pct (ok and recovery) but with a decent time off and a good diet and training you will gain,i also use peptides which help this void while pct is inplace

no one mentioned 21 stone pro bbers i asumed this was more of a general rule

bigacb · 15-06-2008, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjb1

thanks jimmy exactly what i said, not during pct (ok and recovery) but with a decent time off and a good diet and training you will gain,i also use peptides which help this void while pct is inplace

no one mentioned 21 stone pro bbers i asumed this was more of a general rule

Thats why i said from one extreme to the other. If your past your 'natural limit' then how could you possibley grow if you stopped using AAS? It wouldnt happen IMO if there are studies etc to prove me wrong then i will hold my hands up. I no the examples are not the average AAS user but it was trying to get a point across, it depends how far along the line you are. I think i was more aiming at the top of the pile but for your average BBer then probably.

**hackskii** · 15-06-2008, 10:13 PM

As you get older all hormones lower.
As we age it is harder to keep the same muscle on as we could in our prime.
I dont really notice much loss in strength as I age, but I am getting more injuries though.

14-06-2008, 11:14 PM	#17 (permalink)
Jimmy UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Forest gym crawley Posts: 4,540	Re: gains whist off cycle it also depends on how long you take between cycles too if one were to take a year off....then yes, once recovered fully the body would start to gain well its a very broad question really think like this natrually someone can only hope to gain around half a pound of real muscle every 1-2 months...so the gains are natrual, but not really very easilly noticed now take someone just coming off a cycle, and think of the shutdown, and how long it takes to fully recover....now think of the slow gains after this....before the gains come, one is usually back on gear again!!!! but lets not foget this....not all gains on cycle are purely down to gear a portion of the tissue will be responsible to a good diet/training regime

15-06-2008, 10:43 AM	#19 (permalink)
jjb1 LIVING THE DREAM Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: uk Posts: 2,331	Re: gains whist off cycle thanks jimmy exactly what i said, not during pct (ok and recovery) but with a decent time off and a good diet and training you will gain,i also use peptides which help this void while pct is inplace no one mentioned 21 stone pro bbers i asumed this was more of a general rule

15-06-2008, 10:13 PM	#21 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 24,425	Re: gains whist off cycle As you get older all hormones lower. As we age it is harder to keep the same muscle on as we could in our prime. I dont really notice much loss in strength as I age, but I am getting more injuries though. __________________ Scott

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