BigSmurf

can some one explain to me why doing a cycle before your natrual limit is a bad thing?

denny

There's an argument which says that you need to know what you're doing in terms of building, as the gear only forms part of the chain.

Also if you get things right, it takes only modest amount of gear. Newbies that start early tend to realise on juice, not food.

I started before my limit and shot up to size. Wouldn't change it for the world. Why wait five years when you can do it in 1?

chronic-2001

health implications,
its illegal,
steroid physiques are obvious,
every single lad i know on roids whos been doing them for years admits they are ****ed, one whos 36 said to me the other day hes addicted and he knows he wont reach 40

Slamdog

a) yes

b) no, they are not illegal

c) not really

d) psychologically maybe, but not physically

chronic-2001

Also you DOB is the same as mine which makes you either 18 or 19, id say its pritty silly for you to consider taking steroids at that age! Maybe you need to sort out you diet and routine 1st! Ive found by having a very high protein intake each day im getting more size and strength gains than alot of older lad do with the steroids

denny

you sure you're in the right forum??

denny

and they're not illegal. I even buy mine legally.

chronic-2001

b) they are illegal to purchase, do you make your own?

d) i wouldnt say its psychological when they are ****ting their insides out, spewing up out back, sweating like **** for nothing, getting roid rage ect.

I know alot of lads say they have used steroids for years and had no side effects, but some people say the same about smoking, the problems associated with taking them are still there fact!

Tinytom

Chronic you really have to research your subject.

You dont really know much about what you are saying.

You can buy steroids legally, you do not get arrested for purchasing them. You can even bring back gear from abroad.

Plus - Roid Rage, WTF are you on. I know plenty of little idiots who dont take gear that kick off all the time. In fact I would say that 99% of the tw*ts I kick out of my club are coke heads not Gear users.

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chronic-2001

I agre tinytom i dont know too much about steroids however i know about 50 + lads persoanlly that use them and they will all admit there are bad side effects that arise from taking them much of the older ones have told me alot of stories that are of putting, alot of them have lost mates at young ages due to heart attacks ect.

bulkaholic

I would say the age is the first consideration (early use will close your growth plates stunting growth) Also your natural test levels will high at the moment anyway.
The health considerations are hard to realise at your age also(please don't take this as a jibe at the young) You may be more sensible but at 19 I was upto all sorts of sh1t i wish i had left alone looking back.

If people are honest quite a lot of people will have taken steroids before reaching natural peak but many do have a good few years training in. This will improve the strength of connective tissue which it needs with the strength increases from some steroids.

Dont risk screwing up your endocrine system at such a young age. you have many things ahead that this could affect.

Colin (33 going on 70)

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denny

I fly to Egypt/Bulgaria, and buy from a repsectable pharmacy, who deliver to my hotel, then I bring them back with a note from C&E stating my agreed limit, and show the customs lads, who usually wish me luck with my cycle. No laws broken on either side.

clown.

I've never suffered a serious side effect, get medically screen twice per cycle and have never had a health issue.

Check your facts before trying to sound clever.

Tinytom

I oculd introduce you to 100 guys taht use gear wisely and dont get sides.

I would bet that the guys you know just juice their t8ts off and eat a load of sh*t.

If theyt are getting 'bad' side effects then they are using too much simple.

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chronic-2001

You sound like a complete prat to me, i think i am the clever one staying natural, only time will tell

Tinytom

Any more flaming or personal insults will be met with members getting banned.

Discussion but not insults please. That goes for everyone. We all have a right to our opinion.

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