steroids before natural limit? - Page 6 - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

Lost Soul · 15-06-2008, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bkoz

roid rage is a myth.wives tale

No, androgenic gear may heighten the aggression of some people prone to having a short temper in certain situations

Its just about controlling that which most can do

Tatyana · 15-06-2008, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by wogihao

True but then we get into the nature nurture debate.

Is someones diet retarded because of a genetic pre-dispostion to eat Chei McD and Licking Chicken or is it there parents/peers fault for imprining a bad lifestlye choice?

Preference in diet is nuture, but the variability in what people need in their diet is nature.

For example, there is a huge variance in the amount of some of the minerals that people require in their diet.

Same with training, I dont think people are geneticly destined to use chrome dumbells on the preacher bench and use crappy routines. Its there lack of aplication to real pain and sacrifice.

There are links with personality and genetics (well really, where does your brain come from but your genes?), and that does confer a difference in apptitude, perseverance, etc. NATURE.

Sure your have a tiny percentage of genetic basket cases but there going to be as rare as potential Mr Olympians.

It seems to me that people are all to fast to blame somthing they cant change rather than faults that are created through there lack of sound theory/aplication.

I firmly beleve that within every bicep/chest boy theres a balanced bodybuilder waiting to get out - just needs the right training/diet and rest plan.

You have some points, I do think that most people that blame their genetics train like idiots and eat like anorexics, but not everyone is going to be able to have a sek-c flex-ie physique.

Everyone can make improvements and look pretty bloody good, but with masses of muscle, no way, even with gear, just not going to happen for a lot of people.

SCJP · 15-06-2008, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Con

Sure mate not a bother i probably took your reply in the wrong way at the wrong time so i appolgize for coming off like a prick. I just strongly disagree that is all

No worries.

My perspective is formed from having been training for about five years, two & a half of which properly, diet is good, however I have reduced it from almost half a kilo of oats & 400g+ of protein a day (in addition to other foods) as I got too fat, with too little in the way of muscle/strength gains to show for it.

Training is sensible, & I get 6.5-7 hrs sleep (albeit broken once or twice by my daughter) each night.

Other lifestyle factors are unlikely to have a major negative impact, yet I can't bench much more than 70 & was squatting & dead lifting up to 120/160 before back/knee issues put these exercises on hold for the time being.

Maybe I can gain a little more, but that would take a very long time indeed without any assistance.

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