steroids before natural limit? - Page 3 - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

james1988 · 11-06-2008, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by denny

James, don't fall into the trap of thinking the juice is safe - it has risks. An intelligent athlete (and there are loads on here) mitigates these risks sensibly to stay safe.

The comments in the thread are utter bollocks, but that doesn't mean that it's 100% safe to do.

Read as much as possible, and ask lots of questions.

Oh, I don't care what anyone says - no natural has ever grown like I did assisted, although to be fair, you are exchanging consistent growth with bursts of explosive growth, which has an emotional consequence.

ino there is going to be some risks with roids im not sayin there wont be but i am going to stay off and train naturally for at least 2-3more years im just getting a good knowledge on them for now and getting peoples opinions and experiences on the drug. and what age did you do your first cycle??

bigacb · 11-06-2008, 10:51 PM

From personal experience i think at the age of 18 i was too young, then stopped for 4 years and started again. I dont think at that age 99% of people are developed mentaly or physically enough for the use of steroids. People at that age see it as a quick fix to look good on a fri and sat night which i admit i did, and yes i did look good

but regret it now. I could of easily got where i got to naturally but its done with now its all in the past. I really dont think you have absorbed enough knowledge at that age of training, diet and AAS. Thats my take on the whole saga.

denny · 11-06-2008, 11:01 PM

I started at 27 mate.

james1988 · 11-06-2008, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bigacb

From personal experience i think at the age of 18 i was too young, then stopped for 4 years and started again. I dont think at that age 99% of people are developed mentaly or physically enough for the use of steroids. People at that age see it as a quick fix to look good on a fri and sat night which i admit i did, and yes i did look good

but regret it now. I could of easily got where i got to naturally but its done with now its all in the past. I really dont think you have absorbed enough knowledge at that age of training, diet and AAS. Thats my take on the whole saga.

have u had any natty test problems now your older from using at 18? and what did you use on your first cycle?

Con · 11-06-2008, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by chronic-2001

I agre tinytom i dont know too much about steroids however i know about 50 + lads persoanlly that use them and they will all admit there are bad side effects that arise from taking them much of the older ones have told me alot of stories that are of putting, alot of them have lost mates at young ages due to heart attacks ect.

Christ almighty WTF are you chirping on about

Do steriods affect the heart sure to a degree they do but you will also find studies that they benefit health and guess what?! One of the major killers in the world is in fact heart problems and no not due to steriods its just one of those weak points in the body. Now a lot of steriods and a lot of recreational drugs and then yes perhaps your pushing what is safe.

As far as roid rage i have never seen this my self but i have personally experienced teen rage many times (this is where uneducated teens talk **** either in person or on the web which sends me into a rage).

As far as genetic limit NO ONE truly reaches this before they start gear as there is always some way to push out a little more growth even if its barely noticable and takes ages to achieve.
So when you start to use is a personal preference but imo you better be a pretty big fella shifting some pretty big weights with a body that could stand on a natural stage before you start with the drugs.

bigacb · 12-06-2008, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by denny

I started at 27 mate.

Wasnt aimed at you.

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Originally Posted by james1988

have u had any natty test problems now your older from using at 18? and what did you use on your first cycle?

Dbol 30mg ed for 6 weeks. Didnt have a clue what i was doing didnt run PCT. Never got bloods done. Not had any problems that i know of. I would leave it mate, honestly. What are your stats?

nathanlowe · 12-06-2008, 12:09 AM

Con are you still natural ?

bigacb · 12-06-2008, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by nathanlowe

Con are you still natural ?

He most definatly is,

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Con · 12-06-2008, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by nathanlowe

Con are you still natural ?

Yes i am naturally good looking.

bigacb · 12-06-2008, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Con

Yes i am naturally good looking.

Dont be so modest!

Con · 12-06-2008, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by bigacb

Dont be so modest!

What can i say i am just modest by nature

To properly answer your question natahan no i am not and havent been for a few years (started too young a few months prior to my 20th birthday and am 22 now.) was i at my genetic potential yet? Of course not but i was 202lb bulked and 180lb very lean at 5ft8 and i could deadlift close to 300kg natural so i think i had a bit of a base

james1988 · 12-06-2008, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bigacb

Wasnt aimed at you.

Dbol 30mg ed for 6 weeks. Didnt have a clue what i was doing didnt run PCT. Never got bloods done. Not had any problems that i know of. I would leave it mate, honestly. What are your stats?

im not going to do my first cycle till im at least 21 and my stats are
height - 5''8
weight - 170lbs
bench- 85kg 8reps
squat- 100kg 8reps
(not near my natty limit)
i got a decent diet at the moment and train 4times a week im guna leave it for 3 years and just get a decent knowledge now for when im ready

i nearly started like 3-4weeks ago but thought it would be best to wait.

james1988 · 12-06-2008, 12:54 AM

bigacb how much did u gain with ur cycle at 18 and how much of it did u lose?

bigacb · 12-06-2008, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by james1988

bigacb how much did u gain with ur cycle at 18 and how much of it did u lose?

Gained 21lbs and lost 7lb. So i put on a stone of muscle. It was the course that i noticed my biggest gains at. Didnt put an ounce of fat on and thought to myself this is too easy, id been training for 2 years seriously(ish) but always played sport and cycled at national level. But it gets harder, thats why i say dont waste your first course it will be your best.

bigacb · 12-06-2008, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Con

What can i say i am just modest by nature

To properly answer your question natahan no i am not and havent been for a few years (started too young a few months prior to my 20th birthday and am 22 now.) was i at my genetic potential yet? Of course not but i was 202lb bulked and 180lb very lean at 5ft8 and i could deadlift close to 300kg natural so i think i had a bit of a base

What is your AAS history? Cant believe your only 22 and whats your stats because you look like a big mother trucker...

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