chronic-2001

TinyTom - **** you i dont want to be part of a forum with such ignorance regarding the use of steroids anyway, thanks

Tinytom

Well actually I was defending you as I thought that you were getting ridiculed for your opinion.

But if you want to have a paddy tantrum thats fine just leave.

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bulkaholic

It's very unlikely that the heart attacks were a direct result of steroid use. more an effect of either abuse or other surrounding factors such as poor diet etc. Then theres the point they may have been pre-disposed to heart problems anyway. If people get checked out medically and listen to there body and the medical advice there is no reason to be killing yourself.

I know people that have spent half their life road running and have wrecked knees/shins, ankles etc backs are shot. About the only thing any good is internal organs which will make sure they live through many years of pain from there sport. What i am trying to say is too much of anything can be bad.

Colin

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Slamdog

bye chronic....

insulting one of the top mods is probably the silliest thing to do.....

007

lmfao mate wind your neck in will ya(no flame)i also buy my aas legaly from abroad and as for the 50 + lads you know who juice i bet there all young kicks off who juice and lift for the summer and go out every weekend and get off there face .

to the thread starter there are many reasons why one shouldent use aas in the first 2 years off starting out lifting (i say 2 years off good solid diet and proper lifting )as for me i started useing gear after around 15 months off good training and lifting and gained 25lbs after pct on my first cycle(i was 22).there is a danger off tearing tendons and ligiments it you jump right on gear and trust me thats not fun.

bulkaholic

must have been roid rage

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Tinytom

TBH I think I'd be a bot annoyed if everyone jumped on me like they did on him.

Chronic if you want to come back and start again thats fine.

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denny

Good point this, taking an untrained body and subjecting it to the training you need to really make use of the gear is dangerous and can lead to injury.

IME, most guys that jump on to early really don't appreciate what it really takes to grow, they think they're eating a lot and discuss diet on the forums, but have no real comprehension of just what you need to do.

The cycle inflates them, PCT deflates them, and they get stuck in a habit of needing gear.

It doesn't have to be this way though. You can do it right from the start.

warren_1987

jesus , lol. i have my opinion on steroids and beleive that its healthier in the long run to not use but chronic you need to realise that its not killing anyone, if the guys were trying to condone murder or rape then ok but do a bit more research into it. like i said its not my thing really but yet i dont mind it just like i dont mind the fact my mates like to get plastered at the weekend or my sis has a unhealthy love of junk food, steroid use is a big part of bb but so is hard work, training , nutrition, so slating the use of ped's on a predominantly bb board is crazy imo .

BigSmurf

im not planning on using roids now im gettin a better knowlegde of them for the futrue and i reckon u should get a better knowledge about them before u try answer questions. ive read the other comments u have left and i think ur ignorant about steroids and shouldnt be insulting ppl who are just exspressing there own opinion.

Tatyana

Bingo, this is one of the major reasons, it often takes people years to figure out how to train and feed themselves properly.

The other issue besides epiphyseal plate closure (which will not happen with all steroids, I think just the ones that aromatise more) is that probably 9 times out of 10, your natural test and GH levels are going to be naturally high at the ages of 17-26, might as well take advantage of it.

You will still have another 50 years for TRT.

Also between the ages of 18-22, men fill out naturally, like when puppies turn into dogs.

denny

James, don't fall into the trap of thinking the juice is safe - it has risks. An intelligent athlete (and there are loads on here) mitigates these risks sensibly to stay safe.

The comments in the thread are utter bollocks, but that doesn't mean that it's 100% safe to do.

Read as much as possible, and ask lots of questions.

Oh, I don't care what anyone says - no natural has ever grown like I did assisted, although to be fair, you are exchanging consistent growth with bursts of explosive growth, which has an emotional consequence.

nathanlowe

Id personally only ever go on steroids with
- A good natural body
- Perfect consistant diet
- good solid base of knowledge regarding PCT etc
- I was over 22 years of age.
- And that my girlfriend of the time didnt have any disaprovements of steroids.

Most people just think you go on steroids, get massive, get roid rage and lose your balls and d!ck.
I have very little knowledge on them but find it really annoying when things like ^ are said.

BigSmurf

i personally know about 10 people that are on roids and use them safely and 1 guy in my gym started at 16 and is now in his 30s and he hasnt had any bad effects to this day and his health and heart is in good condiction according to his doctor and what i have learnt so far as long as u use them safely ur not going to get any bad long term effects. but he does admit 16 was to young

ba baracuss

18-26 year olds don't know they're born in terms of natural test.