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turbo · 22-09-2004, 03:23 PM

Well, several points to add here. Where the f**k do you inject it 4g a week every week?

And secondly, i agree with big, a lot of people dont give it time for their natural test to kick back in and so they might as well stay on. Id be interested in some tests to see exactly how long after a cycle it takes for natural test to kick in. I did 2 cycles earlier on in the year, only 500mg test pw. But one was for 2 months, then I had a month off, then went back on for 3 months. All was fine coming off, throughout pct etc.. But, 2 months after pct i suddenly went through a phase which felt like i normally do doing pct. i.e. worn out, tired, sluggish, no energy, very low sex drive - basically all the symptons of having low test levels. I started taking tribuvar at maximum dosage and much to my supprise that seems to be perking me up no end.

Biker · 22-09-2004, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbo

Well, several points to add here. Where the f**k do you inject it 4g a week every week?
.

glutes
quads
calves
biceps (both heads)
triceps
delts
Traps
Pecs!

if you get that low a couple of months after PCT I would recommend running PCT again, it's not that unusual for that to happen mate.

kay2 · 22-09-2004, 03:34 PM

So should i have had my natural test levels tested before i started, i only started on viromone on friday, i had one vile then and one vile last night, this is my 1st time on gear that should be enough??shouldnt it

GoldenArrow · 22-09-2004, 03:57 PM

Viromone should be run at least mon/wed/fri.

kay2 · 22-09-2004, 04:05 PM

I was told twice a week?? im 151/2 stone and completely natural until now, so i should perhaps take another vile on sunday? I was thinkin until christmas too is that long enough and what pct will i need

turbo · 22-09-2004, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Biker

glutes
quads
calves
biceps (both heads)
triceps
delts
Traps
Pecs!

if you get that low a couple of months after PCT I would recommend running PCT again, it's not that unusual for that to happen mate.

christ, i wouldnt fancy all those wince!!!!!

good idea on the pct, might well do that, although im becoming more and more tempted to go back on cycle in a months time, so i might just wait until then. Cheers.

**hackskii** · 22-09-2004, 05:09 PM

I am 12-13 weeks out and I still feel I have lower than my base levels right now.
Had dry skin 2 weeks ago and my sex drive is down. It is not too bad but not my normal self and I give that to the low levels.

I just checked out my twins (winger) nuts (no, I am not gay) and his were still much bigger than mine. Which kindof tells me with the lower than normal sex drive that I am still not back.

Most guys would just go ahead and do another cycle but I am going to wait till everything is back to normal. Then do something small and maybe like primo or anavar.

GoldenArrow · 22-09-2004, 05:15 PM

Re. Viromone, ideally it should be injected at least every other day, but the easiest way is M/W/F unless you want a higher dose. Until Christmas is a bit long, but I'm not the guy to comment!

philipebrown · 22-09-2004, 05:24 PM

I just checked out my twins (winger) nuts (no, I am not gay) and his were still much bigger than mine. Which kindof tells me with the lower than normal sex drive that I am still not back.

Wtf, yes you are! You coulda just asked him Hacks! lol

**Jimmy** · 22-09-2004, 06:21 PM

you can do prop every three days if a first time user

up it to eod if dose seems to be too low to work properly

Biker · 22-09-2004, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy

you can do prop every three days if a first time user

up it to eod if dose seems to be too low to work properly

agreed

winger · 23-09-2004, 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biker

if you get that low a couple of months after PCT I would recommend running PCT again, it's not that unusual for that to happen mate.

Spot on mate that is what I did. I did hcg and four days later started pct. It did seem to work. Biker I cant give you reputation points but they are well earned.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kay2

So should i have had my natural test levels tested before i started, i only started on viromone on friday, i had one vile then and one vile last night, this is my 1st time on gear that should be enough??shouldnt it

If it were me I would discontinue, wait about 3 weeks or more and get your free tes levels check for a baseline and then do gear. If you dont know your normal levels of tes then you are just guessing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by philipebrown

I just checked out my twins (winger) nuts (no, I am not gay) and his were still much bigger than mine. Which kindof tells me with the lower than normal sex drive that I am still not back.

Wtf, yes you are! You coulda just asked him Hacks! lol

Imagine how much you could learn from your twin. I am not gay eather but he can get a good idea where he was at. When he checked them out he looked very depressed. I dont think I can quote him but he did say somthing about wallnuts............poor guy. Been there done that...........for a year:o

winger · 23-09-2004, 04:17 AM

If I ever do gear again it would be for a very short time. Maybe primo tabs for 19 days. Dont ask please. There is a method to my madness, but probably more madness then method..;)
What the hell Jimmy no sex talk.............lol. Must be still low almost seven months out.

DB · 23-09-2004, 11:44 AM

[quote=hackskii]
I just checked out my twins (winger) nuts (no, I am not gay) and his were still much bigger than mine.QUOTE]

Not takin the pi5s but it just made me laugh when i read it, not the kind of thing u expect to read lol

**hackskii** · 23-09-2004, 06:37 PM

I know it even hyjacked the thread too.

But I did not really check out the balls before I started the gear and really didnt remember how big they used to be.
So the o'l identical twin brother will due nicely for a guage on how big they are supposed to be. So for the last 3 cycles in the last 1.5 years they have not been the same.

I have heard everything from suntanning your balls to massaging them to trib and zinc and a gammit of gymmics to bring them back and I have tried them all. But the fact of the matter is time is the only thing that will bring them back.

22-09-2004, 05:09 PM	#22 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 24,425	I am 12-13 weeks out and I still feel I have lower than my base levels right now. Had dry skin 2 weeks ago and my sex drive is down. It is not too bad but not my normal self and I give that to the low levels. I just checked out my twins (winger) nuts (no, I am not gay) and his were still much bigger than mine. Which kindof tells me with the lower than normal sex drive that I am still not back. Most guys would just go ahead and do another cycle but I am going to wait till everything is back to normal. Then do something small and maybe like primo or anavar. __________________ Scott

23-09-2004, 11:44 AM	#29 (permalink)
DB UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: SW London Posts: 11,831	[quote=hackskii] I just checked out my twins (winger) nuts (no, I am not gay) and his were still much bigger than mine.QUOTE] Not takin the pi5s but it just made me laugh when i read it, not the kind of thing u expect to read lol __________________ Affiliate of Bulk Supplements Direct Discount Code= BSD290 UKBFF southcoast 2008, O80kg Champion

23-09-2004, 06:37 PM	#30 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 24,425	I know it even hyjacked the thread too. But I did not really check out the balls before I started the gear and really didnt remember how big they used to be. So the o'l identical twin brother will due nicely for a guage on how big they are supposed to be. So for the last 3 cycles in the last 1.5 years they have not been the same. I have heard everything from suntanning your balls to massaging them to trib and zinc and a gammit of gymmics to bring them back and I have tried them all. But the fact of the matter is time is the only thing that will bring them back. __________________ Scott

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22-09-2004, 03:23 PM	#16 (permalink)
turbo Getting HUGE! Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,123	Well, several points to add here. Where the f**k do you inject it 4g a week every week? And secondly, i agree with big, a lot of people dont give it time for their natural test to kick back in and so they might as well stay on. Id be interested in some tests to see exactly how long after a cycle it takes for natural test to kick in. I did 2 cycles earlier on in the year, only 500mg test pw. But one was for 2 months, then I had a month off, then went back on for 3 months. All was fine coming off, throughout pct etc.. But, 2 months after pct i suddenly went through a phase which felt like i normally do doing pct. i.e. worn out, tired, sluggish, no energy, very low sex drive - basically all the symptons of having low test levels. I started taking tribuvar at maximum dosage and much to my supprise that seems to be perking me up no end.

22-09-2004, 03:34 PM	#18 (permalink)
kay2 Newbie Trainer Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 38	So should i have had my natural test levels tested before i started, i only started on viromone on friday, i had one vile then and one vile last night, this is my 1st time on gear that should be enough??shouldnt it

22-09-2004, 03:57 PM	#19 (permalink)
GoldenArrow Gym Addict Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: London Posts: 303	Viromone should be run at least mon/wed/fri.

22-09-2004, 04:05 PM	#20 (permalink)
kay2 Newbie Trainer Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 38	I was told twice a week?? im 151/2 stone and completely natural until now, so i should perhaps take another vile on sunday? I was thinkin until christmas too is that long enough and what pct will i need

22-09-2004, 05:15 PM	#23 (permalink)
GoldenArrow Gym Addict Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: London Posts: 303	Re. Viromone, ideally it should be injected at least every other day, but the easiest way is M/W/F unless you want a higher dose. Until Christmas is a bit long, but I'm not the guy to comment!

22-09-2004, 05:24 PM	#24 (permalink)
philipebrown Looking Freaky Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: north east Posts: 924	I just checked out my twins (winger) nuts (no, I am not gay) and his were still much bigger than mine. Which kindof tells me with the lower than normal sex drive that I am still not back. Wtf, yes you are! You coulda just asked him Hacks! lol

22-09-2004, 06:21 PM	#25 (permalink)
Jimmy UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Forest gym crawley Posts: 4,540	you can do prop every three days if a first time user up it to eod if dose seems to be too low to work properly

23-09-2004, 04:17 AM	#28 (permalink)
winger UK-Muscle Male Animal Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 10,413 Blog Entries: 1	If I ever do gear again it would be for a very short time. Maybe primo tabs for 19 days. Dont ask please. There is a method to my madness, but probably more madness then method..;) What the hell Jimmy no sex talk.............lol. Must be still low almost seven months out.