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Old 09-06-2008, 02:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question nolva during cycle?

im confused on why ppl wouldnt take nolva during a cycle because wouldnt that just stop the risk of gyno all together???
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Re: nolva during cycle?

it's very toxic
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Old 10-06-2008, 12:10 AM   #4 (permalink)
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pluss it stops u getting the most gains u can
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Re: nolva during cycle?

yes it can hinder gains.

also if you are running deca(or a 19nor) its a bad idea to use nolva as this can promote gyno.
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Re: nolva during cycle?

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it's very toxic
Errr...sorry? Where did you here this mate. Heres the tox on tamoxifen from inchem...


7.2 Toxicity
7.2.1 Human data
7.2.1.1 Adults

There is no information on the acute toxicity of
tamoxifen in overdosage.

The lowest cumulative dose of tamoxifen known to
have induced retinopathy, an adverse effect
which is recognised to be dose-dependent, is 7.7
g (Griffiths, 1987)


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Essentially the only issue with tamox is damage to the retinas, which is dose dependant and cumulative - not so likely to effect BBers using 10-20mg / day for 2-6 weeks as opposed to women with breast cancer who will use higher doses sometimes for many months.

Secondly, estrogen is not bad per se, you dont want to eliminate it, just control it so as to not suffer adverse side effects. You need SOME estrogen to grow as well as possible, but obviously you dont want so much as to cause any sides. Hence nolvadex is used post cycle, when estrogen levles are likely to be high, and typically only brought in to play during a cycle if symptoms of the onset gyno appear.

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Old 10-06-2008, 04:08 AM   #7 (permalink)
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it's very toxic
Studies to prove these theories of yours?
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nolvadex is NOT toxic...........
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Old 10-06-2008, 04:15 AM   #9 (permalink)
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nolvadex is NOT toxic...........
I no but denny keeps on coming up with these famous comments that simply arent true...i want to know where he seems to get them from.
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