willsey4

Hi Guys,

Need your advise, comments and suggestions if possible.

I am currently planning my third cycle. Previously I have done 2 * 10 week cycles of 200mg of Deca and 500mg of Sus per week with good results on the first and average on the 2nd. I am now around the 265lb mark as trying to lose a bidy of BF and my inital plan was to do 400mg of Deca and 750mg of Sus per week for 8 to 10 weeks as suggested by PSCarb.

I have been suggested and have access to Andropen which I do not know a lot about hence this thread. Would anyone recommend replacing the Sus in my cycle to Andropen? What have people's previous experience with Andropen been?

Any advise, comments and suggestions are appreciated.

andyboro

andropen is just BD's version of sust mate... if you are using pharma sust then stick with that IMO

TaintedSoul

Actually Sust is 4 esters and Andropen is 5.

Sust:
testosterone propionate - 30 mg,
testosterone phenylpropionate - 60 mg,
testosterone isocaproate - 60mg,
testosterone decanoate -100 mg


Andropen:
Testosterone Acetate - 20mgs,
Testosterone Cypionate - 75mgs,
Testosterone Decanoate - 90mgs,
Testosterone Propionate - 40mgs,
Phenylpropionate - 40mgs

Cant say which is better as only ever used Sustanon. But there the values if that helps deciding.

andyboro

(insert rolling eyes smiley here) lol

willsey4

Cheers guys. I read up a bit about the Andropen. A lot of sites lean towards favouring the Andropen. Mainly because you dont hold as much water I as Sus i think.

I'll try and find some people that have used it aswell to get their experiences from it.

andyboro

hmm... be careful with what you pay attention to with the UG stuff mate... a lot of stuff is posted with alterior motives in mind..

is the sus you get pharma grade?

bigacb

The amount of water you hold is maily due to diet. Whether it be 4 or 5 esters isnt going to make much difference IMO.

jjb1

its only 25mg more anyways, the big difference could be if you run 500mg or 750mg not which AAS.

ive found no more gains on 750mg than 500mg with multi estered test

Harry

I very much doubt you will notice any difference between the two, so if the BD is geuine I would go with the cheapest.

willsey4

I believe it is but without seeing it I can not be 100%. Anything in the past I have bought has been fine though

willsey4

Intresting you should say that. I was recommended to go a little higher then before but then a lot of people say you will see the same gains whether you use 500mg of Sus compared to 750mg of Sus

jjb1

i ran 1000mg of enan once with 200mg deca was the heaviest cycle ive done and i also got the worse sides ive had.

you may be different though mate i did the 750mg as trial up to the exact cycle with 500mg test, maybe you should as youll only know then how 'you' react

andyboro

for me, if the price isnt extorsionately different, id always choose the pharma option.. as long as its real you know what you're getting that way.

doesnt anyone find it a bit iffy that although BD have been closed for what - 18 months now? there still seems to be plenty of the stuff around?!?

I know there will have been stocks but how much can there really have been?

redman

Test is test the end result will be the same and is dose dependent up to a certain point.

I would choose pharma over UG but price woud play a factor with me.

Robsta

I will say this again, BD are not closed so please get your facts correct before making statements as such. I think you posted similar a while back and I said the same thing. Not having a go mate, but so many people think they know all about BD when they don't...
I would personally go for andropen as it doesn't sting as much, but there is next to nothing in it to be fair. I think sust is probably the cheaper option tho'