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Old 29-05-2008, 06:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Could I get some advice please, and yes your first thoughts are probably stupid ****. I am on decca yellow caps and sust, 1 of each a week...problem is I drink...... normally the equiv of 4 pints a day more or less, yes I know what you are thinking....I am cutting down now and have done this only a couple of times in the last week, old habits etc. Anyway could somebody please tell me what this drinking is taking away from the gains I should be seeing. This is a serious question I just want an honest answer. This is mind, would it be ok to drink occasionally or just go cold turkey and focus on my goals. I do have a reasonable physique with good lifts.
By the way it all started working on cruise ships and partying every night with the crew, it is something I have done for years and am now trying to leave behind but have loads of trouble sleeping....any advice on this also. Just want to know the facts...I am sure there are other people out there like me, any advice would be helpful, thanking you in advance.
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Old 29-05-2008, 06:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Drinking on gear:

well your not on mega amounts of aas, however drinking everynite is not good in any instance.
try and keep it down to a couple of nites a week and you should be fine.
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Old 29-05-2008, 06:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Drinking on gear:

well what are your stats?

age

hight

weight

and most important off all what is your body fat %
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Old 29-05-2008, 06:48 PM   #4 (permalink)
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around 8-10%
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Old 29-05-2008, 06:53 PM   #5 (permalink)
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............not you..................
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Old 29-05-2008, 06:55 PM   #6 (permalink)
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My age is 37 I am 5ft 8inch and weigh 13st 9lb, last time my body fat was measured it was around 15%, but truly I prefer to use the mirror as a progress tool. I am not considering cutting for another year or so but I am finding it hard to gain, this is one reason I am trying to look for answers I know the alcohol needs to go and obviously I need to eat more, also as Jw007 says it is not a mega amount of aas I am on as this is prob my 10th cycle in around 3 years, should I up my aas or is this sufficient with clean living, I was thinking to go to every 5 days to be honest.
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Old 29-05-2008, 06:57 PM   #7 (permalink)
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aas and drink is a no go ................

pick one or the other mate.........
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Old 29-05-2008, 06:59 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Drinking on gear:

so if you drink everyday what is your rouiteen?

how the hell can you work out after you have been drinking?

or is it you work out then go the pub?

seems like a total waste off time to me and your diet must be way off.
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aas and drink is a no go ................

pick one or the other mate.........

rubbish, i make gains take aas and go out on p1ss at weekends to no ill effects other than a hangover occasionally and a few catabolic days
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I wake at 3pm, I train at 7pm I drink after work at 6am before bed, I work nights and as my job is stressful I sit and have a few beers before i go to sleep around 8am. Yes my diet is not great in terms of amounts but it is good food that I eat. I thank you for your advice but what is your waste of time is my life. I admit that I am not Peter Perfect, I was really wanting some hard facts about how and why drinking combats aas effectiveness. I have been training the same way on and off since 1986, I just want some pointers but I know I will never step on stage. I hope this helps you to see where I am with my training as I have said under my name "sometimes dedicated trainer", I think your goals fas surpass mine. But thanks for taking your time to reply.
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ok whatever you say.............just wait another 15-20 years and then come back and say the same thing
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Thanx jw007 appreciate your honesty and your reality, I will try to go with special occasions and the odd day off to be naughty. And if that is you in the picture then all is good in the hood.....thanks mate.
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This is not correct imo. Moderate drinking once a week/weekends is fine imo its hasnt hindered most of the big guys i know they all like a night out.

Everything in moderation is what i say and a few pints doesnt hurt.
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but this guy is drinking everyday................and running ass at what was it 15% body fat...........o dear ......anywau am out of this thread ...good luck to the thread starter..
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Old 29-05-2008, 07:24 PM   #15 (permalink)
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rubbish, i make gains take aas and go out on p1ss at weekends to no ill effects other than a hangover occasionally and a few catabolic days
You would do far better though without

T levels are lowered
nutrients absorption is inhibited
protein synthesis is reduced
empty calories
increase estrogen levels
dehyrdration

Stick that with AAS and whilst its not a 'sin' its far from ideal

As for the original poster

28 pints a week, fcuk the issues with gear, thats a problem in itself, but your call, orals are obviously more of an issue with alcohol but realisitically you have having around 7000 calories of additional crap per week
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