Lost Soul

Thanks for the comments folks

For some, yes, for others no but of course i stated in the post

Some people are ready earlier mentally, some later, some never. physically easy gains are made in 2 years but nobody will hit their genetic potential in 2 years. 2 years is a point where the trainer would be deemed serious and the later questions will confirm that. If they have been tw4tting about for 2 years swinging bicep curls then no, but you answer that question next

Captain Hero

Marts, how many people actually train for 2 years before taking the plunge?

Mr.Elliott

realy interesting, could help to clear peoples thoughts

mars1960

Nice job LS, just 1 small point it's too BIG.
PS, Only nolva on hand for gyno? What if you running 19 nor's?

007

am sure last time i said running nolva with 19nors was a bad idea you said somethink like this..........no this is getting silly blar blar blar........i might be wrong tho but am sure it was you.....

Lost Soul

Size wise, it can be reduced, click the link and it will work

Have i nclude 19 nors on the starter list?

mars1960

After a second look, no you haven't. I'm just getting old mate, back in the day it was one of the first newbs used, how times have changed.
Weather thats good or bad, who can really say.
Anyways LS, still a good post pal.

Incredible Bulk

for someone who wants to step on stage and has their diet and training nailed is it worth waiting the time it takes for gains to stop coming naturally?

someone could step on stage a good time earlier and gain vaulable experiance from competing compared to the guy who is taking the 'abide by all these steps' route.

respect for the time it took to draw up and post the diagram, this is not a post to provoke a reaction, more of an honest open answer.

Lost Soul

Back in the day blah blah blah

I will post what I stated the first time for the 3rd time


This is not aimed at those wishing to step on stage as they are 9 out of 10 times going to have read up on the route they wish to take. This is pitched at those who dont know what they are doing or been given sh1te info in their local gym

dan ellis

Good Post!! Concerning Incredible Bulk's comment- yeah i think people should at least wait till they've matured (physically & mentally) and know what works best for them (training wise). I doubt anybody can truthfully say what works best for them until they've trained for at least 3-4years. I do agree though, nobody can reach they're natural ability unless they're rich, have alot of spare time, and are absolutely committed 110% to the bodybuilding lifestyle. And if they are- is it worth it?
However, I find it hard to understand people who have only trained for a year or 2 and decide to use AAS to further their gains, as normally it turns out to be a waste of time and money as they still don't understand their body and don't get as much out of it as they could do. just my opinion- welcome feedback

Incredible Bulk

i agree with the above... i have been training on and off since my teens, took a few years training seriously before switching to MMA

now i'm back in bodybuilding i am thinking of kick starting my progress to get the ball rolling quicker to get on stage and to compete.
I am by no means a noob and did a cycle 5 years ago to great effect, its a case of either being in a position to compete in 2009 or 2010/11

dan ellis

Bit off subject- but anyone else heard about the gov re-classifying AAS to class B?? Due to the olympics and them wanting to provide a good image.

Mayb this could be a thread starter?? Wat effects i any wud it have- good/bad?

andysutils

wow thats well mint, ace post man
BIg BUMP!

Lost Soul

bump to help people

winger

Very nice LS. I resized it but now it is hard to read. Should it be a tad bit bigger?

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