Sprinter

High every one I have just finished Ist sus only cycle (also 1st time injectable) which lasted 11 weeks at 500ml per wk. Had planned 10wks of sus but half way (week 5 of cycle just finished) had problem getting more test but source came through. The other sus ( which I got in wk 5) is measured at 325per ml. At week 10 realised ther was more (thought ok), which was left over as this sus was more concertrated per ml did .75ml so did the rest which came to .8ml. Am now waiting 3 wks to do a clomid and Tamoxifen (Nolva) PCT.

Stats before sus cycle Height = 5''9 weight 12.7stones weight now 13.10stones. Bodyfat not sure but I can now clearly see a 4 Pac and people say they can also see the outline of a six pack.

I am Planning another cylcle (already you say but want to be prepared and do some reading before hand) in 11wks time but a shorter cycle and quicker acting ester.

I do alot of areobic and and especially anaroebic training so mass is now not my primary goal (maybe 7pounds lean gain) but will wait and see my weight after PCT and weeks to follow. I now realise that it is diet that determines size and bodyfat fat as during this cylcle I adjusted my calories and ate cleaner when weight went up to quickly and found that with all my cardio and lower calories my weight gains slowed but I got leaner, stronger and still gained weight. I respect bodybuilding but it is not the sport I compete so weight gain is not my main aim.

I plan to do a 6 or 8wk cylcle of Test Propinate (followed by Nolva and Clomid for PCT). This is because it is faster acting and will clear my system in 2wks. Sus was good which is why I am chosing Test Prop and also it will clear my system much quicker. As I found Test is Test so will expect similar gains as sus and goals are determined by diet and trianing. I will do either 400ml or 500ml per wk. I plan on only gaining 7lbs but will like to increase my strength and Power alot more without exceding 7lbs gain (possibly 10lbs but will see what I keep after this PCT). Oh also thought of Anavar (due to good strenght gain, low sides but downside high cost) as well as Test Prop but at the moment, only plan on using Test Prop as Var I dont't know whether gains to cost would be effective. Would've done 70mg a day with the Test prop for 6wks. Any info or suggestions would be appreciated.

007

test prop is the best ester out there imo and at 75-100 mgs ed for 8-10 weeks will yeild great gains and you can drop some body fat % whilst useing it will a good clean diet.

i say go for it and you will love it.

my next cycle i am going to be doing test prop but adding tren ace it looks like this

weeks 1-10 100mgs prop ed

weeks 1-9 75mgs tren a ed.

Sprinter

Too 007

Just a few questions. I was planning on 100mg eod (which would give me 400mg pwk) or 125mg eod to give me 500mg. Dont want to go over 500mg as this is will only be my 2nd cycle of injectables and don't think it will help me that much in the long run as friends of mine are on more as they increased quickly but don't gain as much as I did with the same training I do (probably cause I'm new to injectables. Also would it be more effective to do 400mg or 500mg Pwk eod or as you do every day shots but still 400mg or 500mg?

007

you will get away with 100mgs eod but 75mgs ed would be better imo due too it being a very fast acting ester you want to keep blood plasma levels as stedy as possable and ed injecting will be the best way off doing this with prop .but as i said you will get away with 100 mgs eod...

007

also remember you say you done 11 weeks off sust and a 4 weeks pct plan =15 weeks total.......

so its 15 weeks min before your next cycle.

Sprinter

ok thanks for pointing that out to me I had made the mistake of including PCT in time off (this means I will have to adjust things around). Also I had Planned a 3wk PCT would it be more effective to do a 4wk PCT?

007

i always do 4 weeks on pct but if you feel ok after 3 weeks i dont see any prob