Scouse_Si

Ordered some Sustanon which i'll get tomorrow, and wondered if anyone could give me some advice.

I'm 24 years old, only of a slight build (9st 4) and 5ft 10".
I've got a reasonably good muscle structure as my muscles are well defined through some years of amateur boxing but i've packed in the boxing and want go BIG..!

I have a very high matabolism, i eat well and NEVER gain weight. I tried dianabol last year and got no results other than a 2lb weight increase. So i've been told that sustanon may be what i need so i've ordered some from a friend who takes it and is quite honestly huge, and was my size.

I basically need some advice as to what to do to get the best results and the fastest possible way etc etc...

Any help?

Mrdaveyk

im not on gear but i feel the first question you will be asked is what diet do you have?

Lost Soul

sorry mate, i know your new so i wont flame you but please please please

You dont gain weight because you dont eat enough
your weight is no point for steroids

your friend would be very irresponsible to give you gear

post your exact daily diet with protion size below

redman

To be honest forget the juice. There is something seriously lacking in your diet if you cant gain weight.

Its a simple equation if you are on steroids or not you need to eat more calories than you consume and you will get bigger PERIOD! Steroids are not your answer.

Post up a honest outline of your diet and exercise and we can all help.

Scouse_Si

Right... I'll do my best here

Typical daily diet=

Breakfast:- Either cereal or 2 - 3 pieces of toast

Usually eat a packet of crisps or similar before lunch

Lunch:- Either sandwiches from home or 12" subway / burgerking etc etc

Break:- 2nd break in work, usually a large sausage roll from sayers or a pasty

Dinner:- Full meal ie, spagetti bol, lasange, Chicken and mashed potato, tuna salad or anything similar

After dinner:- Before bed i would usualy have another bowl of cereal or crisps etc

My exercise outline:

I'm on my feet all day as im a retail security guard, i run after shoplifters on a daily basis, end up fighting with them etc etc

Lost Soul

Sorry my friend but that is a complete shambles

Ok, to save you the posts of "WTF" etc etc, have a simple read on basic nutrition here and on other sites/resources

You do not need gear and IMO this is steroid abuse

as for the training? where are weights?

fozyspilgrims

Scouse i would say listen to the guys advice. They will help you out.

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Scouse_Si

The guys advice? my friend or the guys here?

gym rat

if you stuck to a good diet of 6meals a day of 40g protein and 50g carb each meal, you'l notice the difference in as little as 6months. leave the gear til you've reached your natural peak mate, then you can really maximise the full potential of steroids

Scouse_Si

Not sure everyone is understanding me here... i find it hard gaining weight... i eat and eat till i can literally get no more in...

the results= quite often weight loss...

I then return to my natual weight of 9st 4, lose a few lbs and go back to 9st 4.

I used to box 4 times a week training and fight around once a month sometimes twice which i gave up gain weight and muscle.

I've been trying now for approx 18 months naturally, tried dbol and got very small 2lb weight gain which i lost pretty much straight away.

Basically, all i want to know is... what do i need to eat (calorie wise) what the best protein shakes are and how to use the steroids effectivly. do i use more than one type or is sus enough? etc

redman

Thats 2160 cals include an estimated 80g of fat and thats still only 2880cals. I would eat that amount on a diet, LOL!!


scouse_si

your diet is lacking a lot from the little info you have given us and there is no indication of your training.

Read up on a good diet, I suggest a good protien supplement and take into account your job, if its an active job I.E. bricklayer your going to need to chug down another 1000cals or so.

seriously mate start with your foundation of diet and training. you cant build a palace on s1ht foundations.

Lost Soul

No, no, no mate

go back to the start:

weight training 3-4 times per week
quality food
6 meals a day
200g of protein
400-500g of carbs to start
increase these above over time suited to your gains
100g of fat
2-3 years weight training
lots of sleep
no supplements
no gear
no listening to your friends

If at this point you havent gained weight, see your GP and have your thyroid checked

Your posts are so close to being unbelievable

Scouse_Si

i totally understand what you are saying lost soul but if i was to take your advice with the use of sustanon / deca / dbol / var etc etc surely the results would be greater and faster etc... this is all i want, good fast results from hard training, eating the best possible diet etc etc

Also what protein shake is best?

Lost Soul

Sorry my friend your post is one of the most alarming cases of steroid abuse I have ever heard, its almost troll like

I will have to pass this over to other members as not to flame you. If anyone suggests you use gear here they need their morals checking

My advice stands, all you need is in my last post above

redman

Protien... any whey protien isolate would be my first choice followed by whey protien concentrate post work out and Micellar casin before bed the casin would help 1 hour post workout also. To be honest your asking a question with a million and one answers.

Gear... OK I will say this one last time..... DONT DO IT!...... Lets be honest though if you dont get any advice hear your going to listen to your mate big Dave or who ever at the gym so in order you dont hurt your self any more than you allready are. ..... Pin 1ml or sus every 5-7 days for 10-12 weeks. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY ONE LAST TIME DONT DO THE GEAR!

Do you even know what PCT is???????