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Old 09-05-2008, 04:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Red face swapping sus for testoviron

Hi guys

As mentioned before i will start a cycle soon, my supplier says he can only get about 7 weeks worth of sustanon but i want to a 12 week cycle, he has also testoviron and was thinking if i could add that for the remaining 5 weeks?

i will be doing mon/thurs shots of sust an would do the same with testoviron

any help will be appreciated
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Old 09-05-2008, 04:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: swapping sus for testoviron

What ester does the testoviron have?
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Re: swapping sus for testoviron

To be honest lost soul i dont know, i thought it was the same as test e:confused:
Will see if i can have a look at the label or something
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Re: swapping sus for testoviron

you can have different esters on it such as prop with is fast acting

in effect enanthate is not a million miles away from sust in real terms

it has one long ester, sust has 4 1 long, 2 medium and one short

the only concern in real time for you is PCT would start a week early with enanthate if it was that so 2 weeks after last shot if you run the sust first and enenathate after

if its prop then the cycle changes but with the longer acting esters, not much in it
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Re: swapping sus for testoviron

im sure testoviron is the testosterone enanthate made by schering. it is only 1 ester i cant see any major problems in swapping to it at some point but if he can get that why not do 12 weeks worth of testoviron
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Thanks lost soul, your very intelligent!

Will see the guy and have a look on the box for the esters in them

1 last question, for pct is nolva and hcg enough?
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yes there are some good articles around here on pct read them all
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im sure testoviron is the testosterone enanthate made by schering. it is only 1 ester i cant see any major problems in swapping to it at some point but if he can get that why not do 12 weeks worth of testoviron
correct although they do have prop and blended versions
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Re: swapping sus for testoviron

Forgot to mention i would have done 12 weeks of testoviron its just he only has aboutt 6 weeks work, i dont know many suppliers im afraid:( will have a look wheres it from
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If its the legit shering enanthate

you can do one shot of each per week and start PCT 3 weeks after

If it is a blend or prop ester on it you will need to shoot more frequently and rethink PCT
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Re: swapping sus for testoviron

you will need clomid in that mix aswell mate, nolva and hcg alone will not help you recover
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you will need clomid in that mix aswell mate, nolva and hcg alone will not help you recover
as far as im aware you can use just nolva and hcg. some people prefer nolva over clomid due to side effects and the lower dosage required. i do use both personally but know a few people who only use either clomid or nolva.
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I have run them both together no probs, i did testo and sust in the same shot though rather than one then the other.
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Re: swapping sus for testoviron

Hey lost, enanthate is not a long ester, it is a medium one, I prefere enanthate or cypionate over sust any day.
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