geezore

Hello all, I have been doing a massive amount of research on testosterone.
I am a newbie on this site and did dilly dally around with the idea of pro-ormones but ater following the 4_AD thread have come to the decision to go for the sust.

I weight 75kg, am 40 years old (old man I know!), have been training right for over a year, taking promax, creatine, multivits etc.
Ususally mix weights with cardio 3 times a week, but only do the cardio for about 30-45 mins to ensure I grow.

Need to spend more time training my legs I know, as I hear this helps averall gains on the whole body and of course looks more well-proportioned.

I was thinking of doing sust 250 once a week for a short course (or even 100mg twice a week), as still a bit nervous about the whole test thing. I know all about PCT with nolvadex and clomid etc.

The advice I need from you experienced guys is as follows.

1. Is 6 weeks of sust pointless? (With intensive training, good diet etc will I not see some benefit?

2. is the PCT necessary after this sort of short course. I know you guys will probably recommend 8-12 weeks of sust for which PCT is essential???

Thanks in advance, I have had very helpful feedback on my earlier post on 4-AD, hope that continues.
I also know beginners often take up space on this board and ask questions that they should already have researched up to the max.
I don't think these questions have been asked before so hopefully you experienced guys will be helping others apart from me.

G

Lost Soul

ok mate

questions

1 - Yes, run it for 10 or run prop for 6 OR dbol for 6
2 - Yes, regardless, no ifs and no buts

Couple more points, throw legs in there and your not too old, nobody ever is too old

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willsey4

Without knowing more about your diet, training etc it is hard to say. However the very first impression I got from your post is that you are not at the stage to take any AAS right away. You train 3 times a week which includes cardio which gives me the impression you dont do a lot of weights. You also say you have only been training for a year. I trained for 7 years and exhausted every other option before I took any AAS.

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geezore

Thanks guys.

I researched this a lot.
I thought that the older guys should be on the HRT to see better growth, I must admit I have not had my test levels checked.
(OK Lost Soul, I accept nobody is too old, I accept this is defeatist and probably an excuse for some)

I only see gains when I train 3 times a week as the respective muscle groups are still sore any earlier.

Maybe I should consider less cardio. (Usually get the cardio out of the way in the mornings on the same day as the weights in the evening)

Lost Soul

Can you post a link to a site/article where 6 weeks of sust followed by no PCT was suggested please?

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geezore

Sorry mate, I did not mean that I researched Sust for 6 weeks and no PCT, I meant I researched the issue of sust in itself a lot. I could find no advice on how effective 6 weeks would be, that is why I posted the thread...for advice.

I can see now that 6 weeks is considered too short.
I will forget that idea!
Thanks for the advice.

Lost Soul

OK

here are the options

1 - no gear and logical training

2 - 6 week cycle, prop and then PCT 3 days after last shot

3 - 6 weeks dbol PCT day after last tabe

4 - 10 to 12 weeks of sust PCT 3 weeks after last jab

Your call of do some more thinking and post sample cycles but the above are bread and butter, especially 2nd two

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geezore

I really appreciate the advice. You are the man.
Thanks mate, and to all those who took the effort to respond.

G

Lost Soul

Im actually female but thanks for your kind words

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geezore

I could tell that from your approachability and sensitivity in dealing with my questions!

Lost Soul

But didnt search my previous posts to see my:

Dry sense of Humour
1g of test per week cycles

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TaintedSoul

Female on 1g of test a week... please do post a pic!!!

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Lost Soul

same cycle, after a little adex

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Lost Soul

after swapping sust for prop

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