Wee G

Just my opinion. You should not consider using AAS if...

1. You are under 21.

2. You have not made substantial gains drug free. If people have to ask in order to know that you train, you have probably not progressed enough without AAS.

3. You have to stretch your finances to cover the cost of a cycle, food, gym membership etc.

Drugs, ancillaries and food etc are not hugely expensive but you MUST have a solid financial base before you can pour money in to a cycle. Budget an additional £60 a week to eat like a bodybuilder, train like a bodybuilder, and take AAS versus being a "normal" person. If this seems "steep" then don't do a cycle.

4. The purpose of your cycle is to get to a point you could attain without drugs given better training, better nutrition and a healthy dose of patience. Drug use should be there to get to a point you CAN'T get to drug free.

5. You compete in a sport under UK Sport drug testing rules. That's almost all sports and federations btw, including the BNBF and NPA in Bodybuilding. Using drugs to compete against clean athletes is pathetic.

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Geo

Here, Here.

Took me 9 years to decide to move up the ladder, and that included alot of reading, even now im still learning.

Geo

Slamdog

sticky this post and have it linked to in every post made in the steroid forum by users with less than 10 posts....

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Lost Soul

nice mate

can i add number 6?

ahhh fcuk it i will

6: If you think PCT is the law enforcing brother of Mr T from the A Team you should not be taking gear

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buchanan

LOL

Mrdaveyk

was going to ask this the other day, reps for you mate!

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borostu82

i dont mean this to sound funny or clever but what happens if your new to the site but not new to BB? not everyone that joins the site is a beginner. i dont mean to say I'm an expert and i have learnt alot from reading some of forums.

so i dont think it should be linked to every post made by new users.

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darkiwi

lol i like number 6

want2getstrong

yeah agree, not everyone here is new to bb

also dont agree particularly with number 1, MXD is 19 and using steroids safely, I think taking steroids is mainly down to how mature you are to understand the steroids and consequence and how to train with them. MXD knows a lot about steroids and there are many over 21s who take steroids and dont know anything, so Id say MXD is in a better position to use them

Lost Soul

No bodybuilder will use steroids safely, they will though take safety precautions whilst using

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wogihao

No by that theory Richard Sandrak was cool to be given steriods because he had a dedicated attitude and a good understanding of trianing/diet. He also had good coaching. and lived the "bodybuilding lifestyle.."

No experence no mater how much does not excuse use of anabolics as a teenager everyone that I talked to who used as a teen no matter how sucessfull said the same thing - if they had there time again they would have layed off the drugs untill later.

Nobody knows what the efects of anabolic steriods on the teenage body are, no one can say its safe. what guys that used as teens in th 90s are saying now howver is that there endochrine system is compromised, they have great trouble regulateing there natural hormone level naturaly now even sometimes years after they stoped useing.

Everyone thinks there indestructable as a teenager, I did. but its when your older and maby your dream of living in California was tainted when you found out you would be doing G4P and selling drugs isnt quite the dream job it apeared it was when you were a teenage. Maby you want to lead a normal life, be a family man ect...

want2getstrong

Now thats taking things too far, how you know richard sandrek took steroids? no evidence of that at all. Its bad for him to take them anywway because he was like 6 years old.

Wog, look at the top british bodybuilders, eg scot leeson, and other powerlifters, they know what theyre doing, they want to achieve something, fair enough they might only be 19 or 20 years old and thats why they taking steroids. What about James Flex Lewis, you seen his phyqiue at 19 years old, he looked unbeatable and won so many titles at a young age.

I dont think 1 or 2 years makes a big difference until you are 21 years old. You do what you have to do.

Lost Soul, mabe youre right, no bodybuilder takes steroids safely, but themore knowledge you have, more you try. Even I have overdosed on creatine or protein shakes, so maybe I wouldnt be suprised if I took more steroids than needed, but doctors use steroids.

Personally think that age 21, is a liability and doesnt mean much to someone with experience.

want2getstrong

Lost Soul there are a lot of stupid dumb people out there who abuse steroids. Personally Id like to think I am mature, clever, and sensible, and am not a typical person. I might be young but I have more sense than older people, and am not a person with delusional thoughts

wogihao

Scots a nice guy but lets be real hes not a top bodybuilder just yet. enough of the nut huggery. Hes got enough pressure without people weighting him down with exectations.

Theres overwhelming evidence to point to Sandrek's father giving him steriods. Consider that he never let anyone see what he put in his kids workout shakes, he threatned to kill the coach when he confronted him about what was in the shakes... He came from eastern europe - where cases of children as young as 2-3 being given steriods as its part of the mythological background to respect strengh in children as it gives there familys great benifits in there comunitys.

Funny that after his father got sent to jail for battery, his son without the special shakes lost his conditioning and mass....

If it wasnt steriods in that shake then I want to know what his dad was slipping him because consider if it was a legit suplement/herb why would his dad now not be a millionare running a sucessfull suplement company?

You give James Lewis as an example as why its good to take drugs as a teen? he was a freak before and would still have been a freak in his 20s. Thats no the issue. its the 1000s of kids that are takeing steriods who go nowhere. and all they are left with are problems.

want2getstrong

Yeah I agree with Flex Lewis being a freak, but there are many other bodybuilders around today who want to make that step up.


What im trying to get at, first- unless you are hoping to make a step up and at least hope to do nationals in bodybuilding, strongman, powerlifting then dont do steroids, even at 30 years of age. I see a lot of strong polish guys in my gym, huge guys but no intention of competing and they look they pro bbs, some repping out 200kg on the bench press clean and never seen a powerlifting comp before. Dont see the point of that unless you aim to do something with it.

So if youre a 19 year old with no intention of make it big, then its pointless, but MXD is someone who wants to compete in the bpo so I defo understand his reasoning for taking steroids, because he wants to compete.

I think it makes more sense for MXD at 19 to take steroids so he can compete than for someone at 30 years old to take it for no other reason than just to take it.