Confused.. Starting first cycle soon, a few questions.. - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

99problems · 01-09-2004, 05:07 PM

Hey there :-) Just joined this forum.

I recently bought some steroids awaiting to start my first cycle..

I bought Dbol tablets, deca and sustenon. I think they are dbol anyway (small pink hexagonyu shaped tablets?) Anyway here is the cycle I was going to do for 4 weeks..

Monday to Friday - 5 x 5mg Dbol tablets in morning and 5x 5mg dbol tablets before gym
Each wednesday - Inject 2ml deca..
Monday and Friday - Inject 1ml sustenon

Any opinions on this cycle would be much appreciated.. Ie for a first timer is this ok?? or really bad etc?

I know about most of the sides so am not too bothered there but one thing that is bothering me is this.. I have a good diet.. 5 - 6meals a day of clean food and i workout 5times a week.. for 6 - 8 weeks then generally have a weeks break.

I was speaking to my friend who is about to go on a cycle he said to me that once you have been on one cycle you have to go on another one very quickly as if you dont your muscle just dissapears and u get saggy skin left behind? Which I dont want..

Basically what I really wanted to do was go on 1, 1month cycle.. see how I got on and if I didnt like it because of whatever reason just go back to training everyday.. But he said once u have gone on 1 cycle u have to go on another about 4weeks later as ull just lose ur gains until ur muscle develops memory for it? is this true? as in will i have to do more than 1 cycle? That kinda bothers me a bit as they arent the cheapest thing in the world to buy! lol

Any feedback would be really appreciated..

**robdog** · 01-09-2004, 05:13 PM

Mate as its your first cycle you would gain well of just 1ml of sustanon twice a week for 8 weeks.

You could kick things of with Dbol but i wouldnt use 10 tabs a day mate. Why not just 6 tabs a day for the first 4 weeks. this way you will have gear left over for your next cycle.

Hope this helps mate.

99problems · 01-09-2004, 05:36 PM

Is a second cycle completely necessary though?

**Jimmy** · 01-09-2004, 05:46 PM

Firstly as rob says, that cycle is a little big for a first timer

Second, the use of steroids really should be continued in cycles to get permenant gains. ie 10 weeks on, 4 weeks off or something like that.

Having said that, I know of a few guys who only do 2 or 3 10-12 week cycles a year, taking long periods off in between.

Its a matter of what your goals are.

IMO 4 weeks on gear, then discontinuing use for ever after is non productive in the long run

If you find them too expensive then you maybe have an expensive source.

I dont want to get into a price discussion but imo, a new user can do a very good cycle costing £10-20 per week.

99problems · 01-09-2004, 05:53 PM

Well I think I may have been severely ripped off then.. I bought 200 dbol caps... 4 shots worth of deca and 8 shots worst of sestoron for Edited:(

99problems · 01-09-2004, 05:56 PM

My goals are to improve muscle size and lose weight for nice abs..

**robdog** · 01-09-2004, 06:07 PM

You shouldnt realy discuss prices on the board mate. If you get any emails from people saying they can get you gear cheaper than that then ignore because they could be scammers.

Why dont you stick around the board and you will be ok. Or PM a mod for a source check.

**Jimmy** · 01-09-2004, 06:21 PM

like i said, I wont get into price discussions for the reasons rob has given, my point is that aas arnt as expensive as some may say.

Regarding your goals, you will go far without gear just by improving diet and training.

how old are you and how long training?

**hackskii** · 01-09-2004, 06:27 PM

No price discussion please.

**Jimmy** · 01-09-2004, 06:40 PM

sorry hackskii, I wasnt trying to encourage a price discussion, rather to inform that AAS arent too expensive.

Appologies.....Jimmy

**hackskii** · 01-09-2004, 06:45 PM

Thats ok its fixed.
I liked your cycle advice you did on the other thread. That was tight!!!~

99problems · 01-09-2004, 09:07 PM

Been training 4 or 5months, I am 18 I have got the diet sorted and my training split is a good all round one so they are both fine..

**Jimmy** · 01-09-2004, 09:59 PM

Ok, your not ready for AAS buddy.

I know everyone here will bump me on this

Stick with the diet and training and save the gear for a few years.

You have a lot of natrual potential left as your own test levels are still high.

Dont mess with nature or your gonna be suffering.

Hackskii will explain better than I can.

shovel man · 01-09-2004, 10:58 PM

take advice mate these guys realy no there stuff ive got 15 years on you & im just starting my first cycle all you need for now is good protien,creatine, l-glutasmine & some zma its worked for me for years theres no hurry mate

demon · 01-09-2004, 11:09 PM

I bet you're excited at the prospect of using steroids, aren't you? I know I was. You've already bought them and they're sitting there in front of you, enticing you. And you definitely don't want to waste all that money you spent on them!

If that's the way you're feeling, then why don't you just put it off for a while. Tell yourself that you'll wait, say, six months. In the meantime, post up your diet and routine in the relevant sections and let the experts here suggest some modifications for you. If you listen to what they say, you'll be so amazed by the progress you make in the next six months that you'll decide that there really isn't any need for the gear just yet anyway.

Why not think about it! Whatever you decide, good luck.

01-09-2004, 05:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
99problems Newbie Trainer Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 61	Confused.. Starting first cycle soon, a few questions.. Hey there :-) Just joined this forum. I recently bought some steroids awaiting to start my first cycle.. I bought Dbol tablets, deca and sustenon. I think they are dbol anyway (small pink hexagonyu shaped tablets?) Anyway here is the cycle I was going to do for 4 weeks.. Monday to Friday - 5 x 5mg Dbol tablets in morning and 5x 5mg dbol tablets before gym Each wednesday - Inject 2ml deca.. Monday and Friday - Inject 1ml sustenon Any opinions on this cycle would be much appreciated.. Ie for a first timer is this ok?? or really bad etc? I know about most of the sides so am not too bothered there but one thing that is bothering me is this.. I have a good diet.. 5 - 6meals a day of clean food and i workout 5times a week.. for 6 - 8 weeks then generally have a weeks break. I was speaking to my friend who is about to go on a cycle he said to me that once you have been on one cycle you have to go on another one very quickly as if you dont your muscle just dissapears and u get saggy skin left behind? Which I dont want.. Basically what I really wanted to do was go on 1, 1month cycle.. see how I got on and if I didnt like it because of whatever reason just go back to training everyday.. But he said once u have gone on 1 cycle u have to go on another about 4weeks later as ull just lose ur gains until ur muscle develops memory for it? is this true? as in will i have to do more than 1 cycle? That kinda bothers me a bit as they arent the cheapest thing in the world to buy! lol Any feedback would be really appreciated..

01-09-2004, 05:53 PM	#5 (permalink)
99problems Newbie Trainer Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 61	Well I think I may have been severely ripped off then.. I bought 200 dbol caps... 4 shots worth of deca and 8 shots worst of sestoron for Edited:( Last edited by hackskii; 01-09-2004 at 06:26 PM. Reason: No price discussions allowed.

01-09-2004, 06:27 PM	#9 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 24,425	No price discussion please. __________________ Scott

01-09-2004, 06:45 PM	#11 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 24,425	Thats ok its fixed. I liked your cycle advice you did on the other thread. That was tight!!!~ __________________ Scott

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01-09-2004, 05:13 PM	#2 (permalink)
robdog UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Home!! Posts: 5,829	Mate as its your first cycle you would gain well of just 1ml of sustanon twice a week for 8 weeks. You could kick things of with Dbol but i wouldnt use 10 tabs a day mate. Why not just 6 tabs a day for the first 4 weeks. this way you will have gear left over for your next cycle. Hope this helps mate.

01-09-2004, 05:36 PM	#3 (permalink)
99problems Newbie Trainer Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 61	Is a second cycle completely necessary though?

01-09-2004, 05:46 PM	#4 (permalink)
Jimmy UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Forest gym crawley Posts: 4,540	Firstly as rob says, that cycle is a little big for a first timer Second, the use of steroids really should be continued in cycles to get permenant gains. ie 10 weeks on, 4 weeks off or something like that. Having said that, I know of a few guys who only do 2 or 3 10-12 week cycles a year, taking long periods off in between. Its a matter of what your goals are. IMO 4 weeks on gear, then discontinuing use for ever after is non productive in the long run If you find them too expensive then you maybe have an expensive source. I dont want to get into a price discussion but imo, a new user can do a very good cycle costing £10-20 per week.

01-09-2004, 05:56 PM	#6 (permalink)
99problems Newbie Trainer Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 61	My goals are to improve muscle size and lose weight for nice abs..

01-09-2004, 06:07 PM	#7 (permalink)
robdog UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Home!! Posts: 5,829	You shouldnt realy discuss prices on the board mate. If you get any emails from people saying they can get you gear cheaper than that then ignore because they could be scammers. Why dont you stick around the board and you will be ok. Or PM a mod for a source check.

01-09-2004, 06:21 PM	#8 (permalink)
Jimmy UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Forest gym crawley Posts: 4,540	like i said, I wont get into price discussions for the reasons rob has given, my point is that aas arnt as expensive as some may say. Regarding your goals, you will go far without gear just by improving diet and training. how old are you and how long training?

01-09-2004, 06:40 PM	#10 (permalink)
Jimmy UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Forest gym crawley Posts: 4,540	sorry hackskii, I wasnt trying to encourage a price discussion, rather to inform that AAS arent too expensive. Appologies.....Jimmy

01-09-2004, 09:07 PM	#12 (permalink)
99problems Newbie Trainer Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 61	Been training 4 or 5months, I am 18 I have got the diet sorted and my training split is a good all round one so they are both fine..

01-09-2004, 09:59 PM	#13 (permalink)
Jimmy UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Forest gym crawley Posts: 4,540	Ok, your not ready for AAS buddy. I know everyone here will bump me on this Stick with the diet and training and save the gear for a few years. You have a lot of natrual potential left as your own test levels are still high. Dont mess with nature or your gonna be suffering. Hackskii will explain better than I can.

01-09-2004, 10:58 PM	#14 (permalink)
shovel man Looking Freaky Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 665	take advice mate these guys realy no there stuff ive got 15 years on you & im just starting my first cycle all you need for now is good protien,creatine, l-glutasmine & some zma its worked for me for years theres no hurry mate

01-09-2004, 11:09 PM	#15 (permalink)
demon Looking Freaky Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 809	I bet you're excited at the prospect of using steroids, aren't you? I know I was. You've already bought them and they're sitting there in front of you, enticing you. And you definitely don't want to waste all that money you spent on them! If that's the way you're feeling, then why don't you just put it off for a while. Tell yourself that you'll wait, say, six months. In the meantime, post up your diet and routine in the relevant sections and let the experts here suggest some modifications for you. If you listen to what they say, you'll be so amazed by the progress you make in the next six months that you'll decide that there really isn't any need for the gear just yet anyway. Why not think about it! Whatever you decide, good luck.