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Old 05-05-2008, 05:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Need help with cycle

Hello Everyone, this is my first post on this forum! I am 20 years old and i am considering a D-bol cycle but as with every begginer i am not sure on dose. I know theres probably tons of these threads however im a Veggie. I have 283 tabs of 5mg apex D-bol (not fakes) and i need help structuring a safe cycle, can anyone possible help?
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Old 05-05-2008, 05:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Im sure meat eating will not stop you using the search function

anyway, to answer the question

6 week
30-50mg ED

followed by PCT

IS THE COURSE MOST WILL START WITH but make sure you have all bases covered before going for it

maybe some info on stats, training history, diet etc would help people
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dbol without test= inability to get erections for the time
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To young to consider taking any kind of AAS, at your age you have a high level of natural hormones what will and can build good amounts of muscle tissue, train naturally and build a good solid base and then consider taking some kind of anabolic support, taking AAS to young can damage your HPTA and cause serious problems before you even started cycling, don't run the risk of damaging your own hormone production, stay clean for a couple more yrs and concentrate on your diet and training program.
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hi guys,im new 2 this site not sure if you can jump in or not or were to post ,not new to th gym been at it now 2 hard years,and have hit a wall cant lift any heavyer or size, tryed steriods b4 but not properly,have just started 4ml of organon sus 250 not sure what anti-estrogens to buy,my mates said you dont need therm,sombody said SAN Estrodex, just not sure at what stage you start therm ,any info would be very helpfull thanks again
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4ml of sus?? That's 1000mg! Normal doses for first cycle are 250-500mg.! Mate you need to research before using. Your mate is wrong you will need to do pct. Read hackskii's sticky at the top of this forum. Is everything else up to scratch?? Ie diet and training?? How old are you?? Not flaming or anything but it seems to me that you have not thought/ researched about what you are doing. Also you would be better off starting your own thread, this way people will be able to reply/advise on your q, instead of someone else.
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hi ,thanks 4 replying,im 25 and 14st,ive tryed 1 cycle b4 kind of got talked into it,bit of a worriyer when it comes to needlies, took 10 ml of sus and 10 ml of rappit tt (tren mixed with test propiate) didnt realy take it properly , got stronger and biger ,tho i lost it after a while not sure if thats down to not taking a pct, thanks again 4 replying ,just im not the sharpest tool in the box when it comes to things like this cheers m8
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I think your getting :confused:.
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To young to consider taking any kind of AAS, at your age you have a high level of natural hormones what will and can build good amounts of muscle tissue, train naturally and build a good solid base and then consider taking some kind of anabolic support, taking AAS to young can damage your HPTA and cause serious problems before you even started cycling, don't run the risk of damaging your own hormone production, stay clean for a couple more yrs and concentrate on your diet and training program.
Take this on board dave, it's so true, youv'e still got loads of natty test coursing through your veins, do you really want to shut that down and risk the damage marcus has outlined?
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Why have you given him (incorrect) advice on steroids, when you have no experience of them yourself and have been following some pretty shoddy advice from some guy in the gym? It's like the blind leading the blind.
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Thank you very much for your advice, i have done quite alot of reseach and training(without gear) since and I have gained quite a bit and im not going to do a cycle just yet as i have got alot of natural test in my system and its doin a great job atm! however i can see myself hittin a cycle in the future, maybe a year or two. i was thinkin of a 4 week cycle(20mgdbol) followed by 4 weeks off without PCT BUT on bulgarian tribulus followed by 6 weeks on(25mgdbol) and nolva after, I jus wanted to see wot you guys thought of it and if it was safe. Ive been trainin since i was 18 so 2years ive been training and it'll be my 3rd or maybe 4th wen i hit this course. Any advice? thanks alot!
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