mani666

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Hi
Ive been looking up and planning my first cycle ive decided to go with sus and deca. I have 2ml and 1ml bottles im getting told different amounts each time what would you recommend?
As you will have worked out im new to this so some genuine help and patience would be appreciated IE how often do i take jab how much diet etc etc. I want to make my self bigger and stronger and sus and dec keep being reccommend to me. I am 34 yrs old and between 12-13stone.
I keep asking for help bu nobody replies is it because im new or people cant be botherd !!! remember everybody starts from the beggining sometime. Thanks mani

Lost Soul

ok mate

there is no excuse for that but question such as the following are givens before steroid use for seasoned users

Its a question which makes people think "not a clue, steroid abuser"

so, lets get back to your cycle, which is a FAQ and google sust and DECA and you get the 'bread and butter' course

it will look something like:

weeks 1-12 sust 250 or 500mg EW
weeks 1-11 DECA 400mg EW

then PCT 3 weeks after lat jab with nolva and clomid. HCG can be taken towards the end of the cycle

Have a read on the searches i have given as its probably been answered more than any other steroid question but please please please dont go into gear use when you dont have the other factors in place:

diet
training
rest
PCT/ancills

marcus300

How long have you been training?
Whats your diet like?

You want to drop the deca for the first cycle. use one compound and see how you react to it, there is no need to be using to two compounds especially deca at this stage. If the foundation has been built from yrs of training Test only will be fine and produce excellent gains.

thestudbeast

I see you've found the right section brainiac

mani666

so just the sus then for 1-12 weeks. weekly is that how many ml my diet consists of red and white meats daily lots of friut and veg. as for training i work 12 hours a day 7 days aweek csa make melol any tips as i shagged when i get home from work

mani666

Well thankyou Oracle lol...

Lost Soul

Pop that in English for me please my friend

marcus300

sorry but i dont understand the above,
how long have you been training?
what does your training program look like?
what does your daily diet look like?

mani666

keyboards shagged sorry. Would you reccomend sus and deca together or just sus on its own and how much how often ? AS for diet its lots of fruit veg and red and white meats daily as for the other bit the csa have fofced me into 12 hr shifts 7 days a week so when i get home im pretty shagged my work is hard physical graft but dont seem to have the energy when i get home to goto the gym any tips?

mani666

ITS not that im lazy and i dont want to turn into he-man by doing nothing just jabbing my self yes i admit that i want to get bigger and yes stronger what woul you reccomend sus and deca or something else??

marcus300

how long have you been training?
what does your training program look like?
what does your daily diet look like?

Dont even consider taking any gear what so ever, if you cant make it to the gym because you havent the energy you shouldnt be even thinking of doing something so stupid.

Here are the tips you require-

1,Start training and get a good basic training program under your belt for a few yrs.
2 Start researching diets especially bulking diets and implement this into your daily food intake along side your training program.

The 2 above tips will acheive your goals you need.

thestudbeast

Mate if your jobs that hard work it will be tough to make good gains down the gym, it just takes too much out of you unless your naturally geneticly gifted. Not what you want to hear but change jobs, I realize it may not be possible.

YetiMan

I dont like to give advice on a subject I am not to clued up on (steroids) but from that comment I would say you are not ready for them. However you will prob ignore this and take them any way, I like Lost's post, no matter what he always trys to help reps.

mani666

your probably right yeti man. I will most likely take roids to help me get bigger now maybe in ignorant stupid or just both is there such a thing as a starter steroid or is it sus and dec like ive been told?

marcus300

steroids wont make you bigger, training and eating properly will, sorry but your not ready to take any kind of AAS.