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| Gym Addict Join Date: May 2004 Location: uk
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![]() ![]() | trt off my doctor? ok so my result's come back and my natty test level's are low,What drug do you think my doc would put me on to bring up my test levels to a normal level,Test inject every-week or every two weeks?,Proviron,Andriol,Or those test gel patche's?? |
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| Banned Join Date: Jun 2007
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: trt off my doctor? Quote:
Test injections odds are your get that if your a woman having a sex change on the NHS... otherwise its way to much hassel for the GP to have you in his office every 2 weeks for a painfull botched inection.. Deca - if you were a burns patient then yea they would probably use that. Test patches - easy choice for the GP you can self administer meening that he dosent have to do it for you, saves him time to chat with the chavs and old people crowding his waiting room. Ofcourse he could do what most GPs would and do Sweet FA.... tell you to deal with it.. probably somthing to do with diet, smokeing drinking ect. there use any excuse. | |
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| Gym Addict Join Date: May 2004 Location: uk
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![]() ![]() | Re: trt off my doctor? well ill find out this week,Surely if it give's me a better quality of life lift my depression and motivation to get back into imployment he will help.. Mayeb but be positive i bet he might offer the gel stuff..!! |
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| Gym Addict Join Date: Apr 2008
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: trt off my doctor? Depends on the doctor, alot like prescribing andropatche's first, but tablets and injections would be the best bet, but who know's its a guessing game wait till he tells you what the course of action is going to be. |
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| Curing the 'Arms & Supplements Syndrome' (ASS) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cardiff
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: trt off my doctor? If he/she doesnt prescribe it why not simply self supply and dose the cost of said meds is not much (i appreciate employment status) but if it would send you back to work then it would be worth doing it? |
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| Gym Addict Join Date: May 2004 Location: uk
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![]() ![]() | Re: trt off my doctor? i am dont you worry he better listen to me for once and make the appointment last longer than a fecking minute in and out with the doctor's appointments id like a cup-of tea and biscuits then talk meds for half-hour lol |
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| if I can't be unfit in heaven.I'l definately be fit in hell Join Date: May 2007 Location: stourbridge west mids
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: trt off my doctor? from my experience buddy if you dont get the patches you should get the disolve on the gum tabs they are test undeconate,but my doc wouldnt do trt until i demanded to see an endocrinologist after waiting for 6 months first. |
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| UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: trt off my doctor? Wog, that is andriol (Testosterone Undeconate) not anadrol...lol They dont give you anadrol for TRT Ok, I have been on TRT myself and I will give you a little information of what I have encountered. First of all I have seen your pics and you are young, problem is your HPTA has not bounced back fully, could be from a botched PCT. So, I hated TRT, and screw the gels, shots, orals, when your body can do a better job at manipulating hormones than any endo doc in the world. OK, here goes. Transdermal preperations are testim, androgel, bio-identical testosterone, among others. They work well, but some smell like hell (testim) and actually gags me, they take forever to work into the thin skin (upper inner arms), are transferable to your spouse, stain your clothes or get into them making them smell while you wash with the other clothes (your woman will hate you for this...lol). And lastly transdermal preperations that come into contact with hair follicles will convert to DHT, even if the area is shaved. This is one drawback to hairy men. Injectables in the States is 100mg test cyp each week, or 200mg test cyp every other week, or some do 300mg every 3 weeks (they dont do this pretty much anymore). Problem is this, 100mg day 1 is nothing, then by day 6 it is going down then day 7. This protocol works well but estrogen needs to be monitored and many will do .5mg adex twice a week for estrogen management. Some docs will use HCG with the 100mg test cyp in a protocol like this. Day 1 of injection 250iu, then days 6 and 7 250iu to keep blood levels stable when the cyp is clearing the system the HCG picks up the slack. They do have pellets that last for about 6 months or longer, but they are hard to nail down as you get them implanted then go back in a couple of months and they test you, they always start out on the low end with all protocols to see how you handle the treatments. Generally they do this to error on the side of caution. Either way, TRT is a pain in the ass, I was on and I am glad I am off, the bioidentical testosterone cream I had needed to be applied twice a day and had Chrysine as an AI in it. I felt great but after 10 months I was having problems with erections. If you are under 40 years old or probably closer to 50, then just do a PCT and then go back and test, you will be thankfull you did.
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| Newbie Trainer Join Date: May 2008 Location: USA
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![]() | Re: trt off my doctor? I doubt a UK doctor would give out TRT. Here in America its alot different for TRT. They will give you HGH, TEST and in some cases the doctor will prescribe you PCT. But it is very expensive and depending on your insurance, you may have to pay it all yourself. I have heard of 5ml Vials of Test Enanthate costing $97. My father in law is on Androderm 5mg patches, Because his doctor wont give him the injections due to him being 67 and he is on certain medications which will cause severe bruising from an injection. But the whole HRT thing is changing big time over here. We cant go a day without hearing the dangers of steroids in the media. And ofcourse the media are still talking nonsense about the chris benoit case. But as said, America is so different in a medical sense. Im from Northen ireland and I see a huge difference. But then again we pay like a thousans dollars to get an ambulance ride to the hospital. |
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