Joemama

Hey newbie here to this forum. I have been working out for over 10 years and I have a ton of gear on hand and am trying to plan my next cycle(s). I am 6'3 220 8%bf, five cycles under my belt. I just finished 10 weeks of 500mg test e, 400mg eq. Got some pretty good gains. Going off for 10 weeks then back on.

Gear on Hand,
20000mg of eq /10 vials
15000mg Test E /6 vials
100 50mg Winstrol Tabs
4000mg tren e 2 vials
Loads of clomd,hcg,nova,letro

I was thinking of a 10 week cycle of:

400mg week (every 7 days) Eq. Front load 600mg
500mg week test e
200mg Tren e
Last 7 weeks 50mg every day winstrol
500 hcg week
PCT

Too much?

mars1960

Welcome.
Well you seem to know what your doing, cycles look ok.
So youv'e just finished your last cycle, what was it mate? and what do you have planned for PCT?

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wogihao

When I front load i use x2 the amount that i would run on the cycle...

but yea thats a big cycle for the second time though. Me i would have just done


WEEK 1:

1g front load test e - each week
20mg of winstrol tab per day - keeps the test free in the system longer.

WEEK 2 - 4:
500mg of test e - each week
20mg winstrol tab PD

go down to a low dose of 250mg every 2 weeks after this with no winstrol tab for 4 weeks then repeat.

do that twice and thats not a bad cycle (your looking at 16 weeks total but your running a low dose for 8 weeks of that so its not so bad.)

I think your get better gains doing it that way then by just doing 500mg for 12 weeks.

EQ, I havent used it but I would keep that for later, same with the tren deffo - its a great drug but keep it for later when you need it.

Winstrol tab is a intresting choice, if you were going for a all out bulk then its probably going to be better running it to keep your active test from binding in the system.

If you can get it, try to add some proviron into the mix, its a exelent drug for controling the sides from test, you would have to experement to see how much you needed but it like the winstrol helps keep the test from binding.

ymir

I see no point in lowering dosages to 250mg / week if bloodpressure is in check, since HPTA will be totally shutdown, better to do a good cycle and step off completely with good PCT at the end.

I would go with low/moderate base dosages instead and "blast" with short esters or orals instad on off 4-6 week, so say cycle is 18 weeks that gives 2 6 week blast and start and end with a 6week cruise in middle.

I prefer to "blast" with dbol+drol stack.

This is my personal opinion not an recommendation to any other.

wogihao

Sorry for some reasion i thought it was your 2nd cycle...

hmmm 6ft 3" and 220lbs thats not huge by anyones standards somthing is wrong with the training/diet if your only that weight with 5 cycles...

What was your previous cycles like?

hows the diet?hows your training looking.

mars1960

Have i got that right, you stack dbol + drol, bad choice imo, i certainly wouldn't recommmend that to anyone, but, your body your choice.
Just out of curiosity what dosage and for how long?

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wogihao

You stack it to get the benifits of both drugs/make them more efective without upping the dose.

Gavin K recomends it. He wrote a article on his site.

mars1960

Well, each to his own i guess.

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wogihao

I never got to useing the amounts where they recomend that aproach.

marcus300

If you have just achieved good gains from test and eq, i would do something similar, why change or fix something when it isn't broken? first persoanlly i would drop the eq, its a very weak drug and does nothing in terms of muscle tissue gains, there are only a select few who do benefit from this drug and i would suggest the gains are from the test within the cycle.Chenage the eq for another compound of your choice and see how you go, test and tren is a good combo.

ymir

25mg dbol 50mg Drol it's a great stack, I have only used it on diet so far I would propably be careful using it on a "bulk" since I get lots of water retention, The pumps I get on this stack on quite moderate dosages of each compund is quite hehe "painful" almost incapacitating.

The time i run drol dbol stack is 4-6weeks