First Cycle selection - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

cmars2000 · 23-04-2008, 04:00 AM

I need some help picking out my first cycle. I have been lifting for aprox 3 years and have come to a stand still in my devlopment. Im 29 years old, 6'1 tall, 218lbs and 16%bf, diet is ok, I eat 3300cals a day with 200-225 grams of protein. I would like to do as simple of a cycle as possibale preferably 8-10 weeks.

Lost Soul · 23-04-2008, 05:57 AM

Weclome

oral = dbol 30-40mg for 6 weeks
inject = 10 weeks test enanthate

Plenty of info on both here and pick a PCT approach of your choice

Porky Pie · 23-04-2008, 08:24 AM

500mg of test, injected into your hairy back side once a week. Read up on PCT before you start.

marcus300 · 23-04-2008, 09:19 AM

I would drop the BF down before starting a cycle, idea BF would be 10-12% it will also give you a good spring board to gains when you do start the cycle. Stick with Test only for the first cycle, best bet Test E or Cyp. No need for any other compounds see how you react to one first and if the diet and training is in order you will produce great gains.

Lost Soul · 23-04-2008, 11:04 AM

[quote=marcus300;422887]I would drop the BF down before starting a cycle, idea BF would be 10-12% quote]

If that be the case i believe there would be about 5% of users starting gear

TH&S · 23-04-2008, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Lost Soul

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Originally Posted by marcus300

I would drop the BF down before starting a cycle, idea BF would be 10-12%

If that be the case i believe there would be about 5% of users starting gear

Are you saying thats a bad thing...?

Lost Soul · 23-04-2008, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TH&S

Are you saying thats a bad thing...?

No, if i have to be honest it makes me cringe/get annoyed when i hear

ma m8s given me sus n DECA ow much shud i take n do i need 2 take proteen n cell tech if i ent trayning dat day. i dont trayn legz cuz i play football innit n wot iz PCT thx

Each to their own though

marcus300 · 23-04-2008, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TH&S

Are you saying thats a bad thing...?

Its alot better if your BF is in the lower end for starting a cycle, dont listen tomthe guys who says its not, they are lazy and have no idea about Fat/muscle ratio and your metabolism shuttling extra calories to fat store because of the mode its set in.

There is nothing better than starting a cycle from a stage of low end BF and to rebound into a cycle for building muscle tissue, prime the body for a few wks drop the BF right down with a slow prime and hit the cycle, the gains will be far better and take advantage of the anabolic window you have created, no need to put muscle onto a fat frame, you might aswell see what your creating.

TH&S · 23-04-2008, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by marcus300

Its alot better if your BF is in the lower end for starting a cycle, dont listen tomthe guys who says its not, they are lazy and have no idea about Fat/muscle ratio and your metabolism shuttling extra calories to fat store because of the mode its set in.

There is nothing better than starting a cycle from a stage of low end BF and to rebound into a cycle for building muscle tissue, prime the body for a few wks drop the BF right down with a slow prime and hit the cycle, the gains will be far better and take advantage of the anabolic window you have created, no need to put muscle onto a fat frame, you might aswell see what your creating.

Sorry I was commenting tongue in cheek on LostSoul saying 95% of the people who run gear really shouldn't run it when they do.

But yes I agree with your post above

cmars2000 · 23-04-2008, 07:35 PM

Is it a good idea to just inject = 10 weeks test enanthate followed up with a pct? do i really need anything else ie deca?

kingomar · 23-04-2008, 10:51 PM

best to stick to 1/2 steroids on your first cycle.
i think the perfect combo would be dbol and test but test only is ok too

23-04-2008, 04:00 AM	#1 (permalink)
cmars2000 Newbie Trainer Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 5	First Cycle selection I need some help picking out my first cycle. I have been lifting for aprox 3 years and have come to a stand still in my devlopment. Im 29 years old, 6'1 tall, 218lbs and 16%bf, diet is ok, I eat 3300cals a day with 200-225 grams of protein. I would like to do as simple of a cycle as possibale preferably 8-10 weeks.

23-04-2008, 08:24 AM	#3 (permalink)
Porky Pie Communist Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Wherever I lay my sword Posts: 452	Re: First Cycle selection 500mg of test, injected into your hairy back side once a week. Read up on PCT before you start.

23-04-2008, 09:19 AM	#4 (permalink)
marcus300 Gym Addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 239	Re: First Cycle selection I would drop the BF down before starting a cycle, idea BF would be 10-12% it will also give you a good spring board to gains when you do start the cycle. Stick with Test only for the first cycle, best bet Test E or Cyp. No need for any other compounds see how you react to one first and if the diet and training is in order you will produce great gains.

23-04-2008, 07:35 PM	#10 (permalink)
cmars2000 Newbie Trainer Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 5	Re: First Cycle selection Is it a good idea to just inject = 10 weeks test enanthate followed up with a pct? do i really need anything else ie deca?

23-04-2008, 10:51 PM	#11 (permalink)
kingomar Newbie Trainer Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 18	Re: First Cycle selection best to stick to 1/2 steroids on your first cycle. i think the perfect combo would be dbol and test but test only is ok too

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