mogsy88

Hi all, just after a bit of advice really.

Im just going into my 4th week of training, im currently taking 2ml of deca on a monday and 2ml of sust on a thursday. I have trained in the past but nothing remotely serious.

I have enough for a 10 week course but after reading on here over the past few weeks realised i have run into somthing before i can even crawl never mind walk!!

I am going to take 6 of the 10 weeks then do PCT. Below is my workout and diet, any advice on improving my workout or diet would be greatly appreciated. Also advice on a PCT please.

Thanks Mike

Age: 20
Height:5'7"
Weight: 10st 5lb


Monday - Shoulders

Dumbell Press 4x8reps
Arnie Press 4x8reps
Upright row 4x8reps
Barbell Shrugs 4x8reps
Lat Raises 4x12reps


Tuesday - Chest / Triceps

Incline Bench Press 4x8reps
Bench Press 4x8reps
Pec Flys 4x8reps

lying tricep extension 4x8reps


Thursday - Back / Biceps

Deadlift 4x8reps
Bentover Row 4x8reps
Single arm dumbell row 4x8reps

Barbell curl 4x8reps


Havnt been training legs as i play football of a wednesday was told not much point. Also im going to start training on a sunday too if its recommended, maybe abs?

Average day diet.

8:00 Wake weight gain drink, 3 creatine caps
8:30 porrige with raisins and bannana
10:30 Chicken sandwiches, pack of crisps,2 pieces of fruit
12:30 Weight gain drink, tuna sandwiches, crisps
5:00 Main meal something along the lines of pork chops, boiled potatos and veg
6:30 Protein drink while training
8:00 Tuna pasta salad
11:00 cerial (normally wheetabix) and weight gain drink, 3 creatine caps

Lost Soul

sorry mike, i find it hard to suggest anything else than to get off the gear and run PCT

everything you have stated is what i and many seasoned trainers abhor about steroid use.

4 weeks training? no legs? a processed food rich diet? complete lack of understanding of how to train effectively

it all adds up to say "dont do it mate" when it comes to gear

im sure others will help technically but i cant get past my morals so i will bump for others

mogsy88

i started it on the word of someone else of how easy the gains come etc.

very naive of myself really! i have noticed gains since ive started but to be honest if i loose all them gains then have to start again ill be happy in the knowledge that its hard work that got me them!

i do not have any were near enough knowledge to be on the stuff so just want to make sure when im off it, im doing things right.

Bigger&Stronger

Definitely take Lost Soul's advice mate and get off the gear.

I'm only preparing for my first now and it's been 7 years of solid training in the waiting.

There's tons of good information on the site for training naturally, give it a few more years at least mate.

Lost Soul

its a case of 'if i told you to stick your hand in the fire....'

My honest suggestion is to wait 4 weeks now with no jabs and run PCT and think about your long term future and application into this game. its fine to fanny about in the gym but not great to play with your endocrine system on a mates say so

mogsy88

ok, so is it ok to just stop like that?

so say 4 weeks from now start PCT

what do u recommend for PCT??

Lost Soul

PCT starts 4 weeks after the last DECA shot

help below

http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/steroid-t...nding-pct.html