What doses to use? - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

bigacb · 19-04-2008, 07:36 PM

I have slight gyno under my left nipple caused from a dbol only cycle a few years back when i didnt know anything. Ive since then run two sus and dec cycles being very cautious and watching for the gyno to flame up, it didnt get any worse(i dont think). Last one was 500mg sus 200mg dec. Im due to start 625mg enanthate ew, 500mg equipoise ew, 50mg proviron ed and was going to run dbol kickstart at 50mg ed for first 4 weeks but think im going to use tbol becuase im abit worried about the dbol flaming up the gyno again. And maybe run tbol the last 2 weeks before PCT. Il be running 0.25mg letro ed. Ive never use ive never used any of these AAS before so was wondering whether the doses look ok or should i lower the eq and at what dose should i run the tbol?

Lost Soul · 19-04-2008, 08:46 PM

gyno will appear if gyno wants to appear, test, dbol or EQ
If you are prone it will flare up 9 out of 10 times

50mg of dbol is a lot
500mg of EQ (a drug i think is pony) is a fair bit and 625mg of test is fair but i doubt many need more than 500mg

a simple tbol kick start can be done with half a gram of test or up your deca dose to 400mg and start or finish with an oral

why EQ?

sust and tren enanthate could be done
sust and primo for some nicer gains and less likely to flare up
anavar with the test?
i even like to finish cycles off with superdrol and believe it is one of the best steroids around but again will potnetially induce gyno

bigacb · 19-04-2008, 08:57 PM

I chose eq because dec shut me down quite bad at a low dose. I wanted to do a lean bulk this time and also heard eq was good for vascularity and plus wanted to try something else. What doses would you come in at for me (i no its hard to say)? Ive bought it all aswell now.

Lost Soul · 19-04-2008, 09:02 PM

Lean bulk is not about gear, its about diet manipulation

what about tren/masteron/primo with a test?

Some will like EQ, i just didnt

You are not going to look vascular when bulking and using meds such as sust/enanthate TBH

bigacb · 19-04-2008, 09:33 PM

I no lean bulk is about what food i used but i wanted to keep water down so i thought id use eq and keep my diet clean. Im also running letro at 0.25mg ed to keeps the sides down (hopefully) I just wanted to try it out and see. I didnt want to use anything like tren because its only my third cycle. So how does this look: 50mg tbol ed week 1-4, 50mg proviron ed, 625mg enanthate ew week 1-12, 500mg equipoise ew week 1-10, 50mg tbol ed week 13-14. PCT to begin day after last tbol. I will also be running HCG throughout at 500ius ew 3 weeks on 3 off.

Lost Soul · 19-04-2008, 09:41 PM

Keep the water down and the cost similar i would run prop and var or prop and NPP

Lot of money in the course and lots of meds to offset the water which could be controlled with prop over enathate/sust

EQ qill increase hunger and HCG may give a puffy look (from my experience)

tbol can though be oushed up a bit if you wish

myself i like to keep things short in terms of both ester and cycle duration

bigacb · 20-04-2008, 04:36 AM

Yeh i see what your sayin i just couldnt be bothered injecting eod. How much would you go upto with tbol as ive never used it before?

Lost Soul · 20-04-2008, 07:00 AM

60mg ED can be used, some will go to 80mg but generally as a stand alone drug at the higher dose.
would funds stretch to half a gram of primo per week, that can be jabbed every 3/4th day as would tren enentahte, see how you get on with that

a nice cycle would be

1-10 500mg of enanthate
1-8 250-300mg of tren
9-12 superdrol or tbol

Thats just me though

bigacb · 21-04-2008, 01:27 PM

Funds arent really a problem, il have to look into that in the future. Im just going to see how i go with this course becuase ive got it all there waiting then have a look at something else. Thanks for help mate.

Lost Soul · 21-04-2008, 02:11 PM

If funds are not a problem then

1g of primo weeks 1-16
100/150mg of prop EOD 1-16
50mg of anavar weeks 10-18
GH at 5iu ED

Thats nice and keeps the wifes spending in check :smoke:

bigacb · 23-04-2008, 09:19 PM

Im not touching GH for a few more years. Want to see how i go with this and will consider that for course in the future. Just a pain in the **** (no pun intended) jabbing eod with the job im in. Think il go with tbol at 60mg for 5 weeks at the start then 40mg for the last two weeks before PCT. That sound ok? 4 days and counting...can not wait!

19-04-2008, 07:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
bigacb is bulk cutting...exactly. Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Manchester Posts: 744	What doses to use? I have slight gyno under my left nipple caused from a dbol only cycle a few years back when i didnt know anything. Ive since then run two sus and dec cycles being very cautious and watching for the gyno to flame up, it didnt get any worse(i dont think). Last one was 500mg sus 200mg dec. Im due to start 625mg enanthate ew, 500mg equipoise ew, 50mg proviron ed and was going to run dbol kickstart at 50mg ed for first 4 weeks but think im going to use tbol becuase im abit worried about the dbol flaming up the gyno again. And maybe run tbol the last 2 weeks before PCT. Il be running 0.25mg letro ed. Ive never use ive never used any of these AAS before so was wondering whether the doses look ok or should i lower the eq and at what dose should i run the tbol? __________________ January 2004 - 10st3lb (8% bf) January 2005 - 11st5lb (8% bf) January 2006 - 12st3lb (8% bf) January 2007 - 13st0lb (11% bf) January 2008 - 15st4lb (15% bf) Start of bulk (now cut) 27/04/08 - 13st10lb Now... - 14st4lb (+8lb)

19-04-2008, 08:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
Lost Soul Curing the 'Arms & Supplements Syndrome' (ASS) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cardiff Posts: 5,051	Re: What doses to use? gyno will appear if gyno wants to appear, test, dbol or EQ If you are prone it will flare up 9 out of 10 times 50mg of dbol is a lot 500mg of EQ (a drug i think is pony) is a fair bit and 625mg of test is fair but i doubt many need more than 500mg a simple tbol kick start can be done with half a gram of test or up your deca dose to 400mg and start or finish with an oral why EQ? sust and tren enanthate could be done sust and primo for some nicer gains and less likely to flare up anavar with the test? i even like to finish cycles off with superdrol and believe it is one of the best steroids around but again will potnetially induce gyno

19-04-2008, 08:57 PM	#3 (permalink)
bigacb is bulk cutting...exactly. Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Manchester Posts: 744	Re: What doses to use? I chose eq because dec shut me down quite bad at a low dose. I wanted to do a lean bulk this time and also heard eq was good for vascularity and plus wanted to try something else. What doses would you come in at for me (i no its hard to say)? Ive bought it all aswell now. __________________ January 2004 - 10st3lb (8% bf) January 2005 - 11st5lb (8% bf) January 2006 - 12st3lb (8% bf) January 2007 - 13st0lb (11% bf) January 2008 - 15st4lb (15% bf) Start of bulk (now cut) 27/04/08 - 13st10lb Now... - 14st4lb (+8lb)

19-04-2008, 09:02 PM	#4 (permalink)
Lost Soul Curing the 'Arms & Supplements Syndrome' (ASS) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cardiff Posts: 5,051	Re: What doses to use? Lean bulk is not about gear, its about diet manipulation what about tren/masteron/primo with a test? Some will like EQ, i just didnt You are not going to look vascular when bulking and using meds such as sust/enanthate TBH

19-04-2008, 09:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
bigacb is bulk cutting...exactly. Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Manchester Posts: 744	Re: What doses to use? I no lean bulk is about what food i used but i wanted to keep water down so i thought id use eq and keep my diet clean. Im also running letro at 0.25mg ed to keeps the sides down (hopefully) I just wanted to try it out and see. I didnt want to use anything like tren because its only my third cycle. So how does this look: 50mg tbol ed week 1-4, 50mg proviron ed, 625mg enanthate ew week 1-12, 500mg equipoise ew week 1-10, 50mg tbol ed week 13-14. PCT to begin day after last tbol. I will also be running HCG throughout at 500ius ew 3 weeks on 3 off. __________________ January 2004 - 10st3lb (8% bf) January 2005 - 11st5lb (8% bf) January 2006 - 12st3lb (8% bf) January 2007 - 13st0lb (11% bf) January 2008 - 15st4lb (15% bf) Start of bulk (now cut) 27/04/08 - 13st10lb Now... - 14st4lb (+8lb)

20-04-2008, 04:36 AM	#7 (permalink)
bigacb is bulk cutting...exactly. Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Manchester Posts: 744	Re: What doses to use? Yeh i see what your sayin i just couldnt be bothered injecting eod. How much would you go upto with tbol as ive never used it before? __________________ January 2004 - 10st3lb (8% bf) January 2005 - 11st5lb (8% bf) January 2006 - 12st3lb (8% bf) January 2007 - 13st0lb (11% bf) January 2008 - 15st4lb (15% bf) Start of bulk (now cut) 27/04/08 - 13st10lb Now... - 14st4lb (+8lb)

21-04-2008, 01:27 PM	#9 (permalink)
bigacb is bulk cutting...exactly. Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Manchester Posts: 744	Re: What doses to use? Funds arent really a problem, il have to look into that in the future. Im just going to see how i go with this course becuase ive got it all there waiting then have a look at something else. Thanks for help mate. __________________ January 2004 - 10st3lb (8% bf) January 2005 - 11st5lb (8% bf) January 2006 - 12st3lb (8% bf) January 2007 - 13st0lb (11% bf) January 2008 - 15st4lb (15% bf) Start of bulk (now cut) 27/04/08 - 13st10lb Now... - 14st4lb (+8lb)

23-04-2008, 09:19 PM	#11 (permalink)
bigacb is bulk cutting...exactly. Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Manchester Posts: 744	Re: What doses to use? Im not touching GH for a few more years. Want to see how i go with this and will consider that for course in the future. Just a pain in the **** (no pun intended) jabbing eod with the job im in. Think il go with tbol at 60mg for 5 weeks at the start then 40mg for the last two weeks before PCT. That sound ok? 4 days and counting...can not wait! __________________ January 2004 - 10st3lb (8% bf) January 2005 - 11st5lb (8% bf) January 2006 - 12st3lb (8% bf) January 2007 - 13st0lb (11% bf) January 2008 - 15st4lb (15% bf) Start of bulk (now cut) 27/04/08 - 13st10lb Now... - 14st4lb (+8lb)

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