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hacksii, what do u use though, apart from nolva/clomid.

I find the normal clomid routine works well, when i can swollow the tabs, lol

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Oh, I use V12 post cycle,
Tribulis,
Zinc,
Avina Setiva (sex drive)
MACA (good for mens sex drive)
HCG during cycle (always)
I use natural stuff from protein factory called post cycle.
I just added some DHEA this time and I think that did the trick for me.
I used proviron this time too for 2 weeks and seemed to help some.
I back off on the intensity some so I dont overtrain.
I take liver protectants and prostate support.
I take natural diuretics too like water factor and dandelion.

I take alot of stuff but this is to avoid the crash. I am alot older than most here and recovery is rough. I know it sounds like alot of stuff but for me I am not taking chances.

I take nolva and clomid together and always run my PCT for no less than 30 days.

Well, you asked for it cheater

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lol, good way to do it, but abit costly, lol, now i see why

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I feel like **** in the past 5-6 days, really depressed and moody. im running dbol 50mg ED and sust 250mg/wk, but i gotta admit i was using recreation drugs last weekend, think this will hav been the cataylst?

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this happens alot sweet fa
a possible quick fix is to take 5 htp twice a day, yeah I'm serious
dbol tends to lower serotonin levels

cheers

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sweet_FA

whats HTP?

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5 hydroxy tryptophan

– Several small studies have compared 5-HTP to standard antidepressants. The best one was a 6-week study of 63 people given either 5-HTP (100 mg 3 times daily) or an antidepressant in the Prozac family (fluvoxamine, 50 mg 3 times daily). Researchers found equal benefit between the supplement and the drug. However, 5-HTP caused fewer and less severe side effects. There is evidence that 5-HTP may help prevent migraines. In a 6-month trial of 124 people, 5-HTP proved equally effective as the standard drug methysergide. The most dramatic benefits observed were reductions in the intensity and duration of migraines. Since methysergide has been proven better than placebo for migraine headaches in earlier studies, the study results provide meaningful, although not airtight, evidence that 5-HTP is also effective.

Similarly good results were seen in another comparative study, using a different medication and 5-HTP. Four small double-blind, placebo-controlled clinical trials examined whether 5-HTP can aid weight loss. The first, a double-blind crossover study, found that use of 5-HTP reduced caloric intake despite the fact that the 19 participants made no conscious effort to eat less. Participants given placebo consumed about 2,300 calories per day, while those taking 5-HTP ate only 1,800 calories daily. Use of 5-HTP appeared to lead to a significantly enhanced sense of satiety after eating. Over the course of 5 weeks, women taking 5-HTP effortlessly lost over 3 pounds. A follow-up study by the same research group enrolled 20 overweight women who were trying to lose weight. Participants received either 5-HTP or placebo for two consecutive 6-week periods. During the first period, there was no dietary restriction, while during the second period participants were encouraged to follow a defined diet expected to lead to weight loss. Participants receiving placebo did not lose weight during either period. However, those receiving 5-HTP lost about 2% of their initial body weight during the no-diet period and an additional 3% while on the diet. Thus, a woman with an initial weight of 170 pounds lost about 3-1/2 pounds after 6 weeks of using 5-HTP without dieting and another 5 pounds while dieting. Once again, participants taking 5-HTP experienced quicker satiety. Similar benefits were seen in a double-blind study of 14 overweight women given 5-HTP daily. Finally, a double-blind, placebo-controlled study of 20 overweight individuals with adult-onset diabetes found that use of 5-HTP without intentional dieting resulted in about a 4-1/2 pound weight loss over a 2-week period. Use of 5-HTP reduced carbohydrate intake by 75% and fat intake to a lesser extent.

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5-HTP Click here.

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