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Old 31-08-2004, 01:53 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Parabolan was know to cause phycological probs and tren is off the same family,so maybe you need to drop the dose slightly.
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Old 03-09-2004, 10:45 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Hey all,

My first post on this forum!

I thought it was just me that got screwed up on gear!! I have lost two GF's in two months through over reacting to simple situations. Really buggered my cycle too as all that post break up frustration got me pretty depressed and I couldn't eat enough! Shoulda come on the Uk muscle helpline :(

I had what I call my my '**** off' weekend. Basically anyone that got on my nerves that weekend got told to **** off! In one weekend I walked out on a job, lost a GF and upset half my family......lol!

So if it's any consolation to anyone out there, you aren't alone ;) and someone else is always being a bigger fcuk-wit than you

HTH **** it helped me, I am purged!!! Demons be gone!!

Things are, I am glad to say slowly working themselves out, but still no GF at the mo which is a real pain with all this Test in my system, balls!
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Old 03-09-2004, 11:52 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Well when i said emotional i didnt realy mean overly aggresive. I meant a couple of times i felt myself fillling up which i found weird while being on cycle. Pct yes bu ot while i was on cycle. Im into week 4 now and this has passed so alls looking good.
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Old 07-09-2004, 05:04 PM   #34 (permalink)
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little bit better now, thanks for asking. wait no! its all happening again!

help!!!!! 3 weeks till pct and ill be even worse, arghhhhhhhhhh

never touching gear again!!!

for at least about 6 weeks ;-)
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Old 07-09-2004, 07:38 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Man, I am glad to not be alone here.
I dont think I will cycle again.
Seems one cycle will go flawlessly and another will be hell. There seems to be no rhyme or reason to this all.
I am having the hardest time recovering.
Threw my back out and have to go to the chiropractor today, I got a rash over my body and dry skin (I feel this is low test levels), and no sex drive. Dammit. I liked it better when on cycle going off on people (just kidding).

I am trying everything, second PCT, tribulis, zinc. Small balls months after my cycle ended. I think it was like 11 weeks ago thereabouts.

If I ever do gear it will be one that is mild on the HPTA, something like promo or anavar, for short time.

Sorry for the rant guys but had to get this off of my chest.
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Old 07-09-2004, 08:03 PM   #36 (permalink)
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nice thread dont feel down guys its cos of yous i have a better understanding of roids i nearly took 8 weeks of 400mg deca with no pct till i recived information from your goodselfs so i thank you all................its been emotional
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Old 07-09-2004, 08:21 PM   #37 (permalink)
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winger took 600 deca for 13 weeks and boy oh boy did that do some damage.
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Old 07-09-2004, 08:30 PM   #38 (permalink)
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winger took 600 deca for 13 weeks and boy oh boy did that do some damage.
thats really irritating, before i came to this site, i read on deca, no toxicity, no gyno, low water retention, great to stack with others, keep nearly all your gains.

bought a ton of it, then read wingers horror story, wont be doing deca ever again
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Old 07-09-2004, 08:50 PM   #39 (permalink)
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yeah carnivore i bought some for the same reasons with it bien my first how wrong was i a found this site just in time thank f*ck
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Old 07-09-2004, 09:22 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Well, winger did it all wrong.
Never do deca by itself, add a test with it.
Dont run big cycles of it and run the test longer.
Dont do long cycles of it.
But yes other then the hard shutdown of the HPTA (up to a year) Deca was low on sides. No gyno, not too much water retention, no high blood pressure, great gains keeper, joint repairer.
But no erections and low test levels for 8 months far outweigh the low sides.
It was bad for me too so I just jumped into a test cycle after realizing what was happening to winger.
He also started his PCT after 4 days......................OMG no no there.
600 a week should have started 4 weeks.
He took low dose of clomid 4 days after last shot....OOPS!
He learned the hard way but hey all this means that for the guys who asks the questions you wont end up like winger.
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Old 08-09-2004, 03:22 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Winger sounds like a dumb sh1t if you ask me.
Actually I don’t condone gear. But after some 14 months my sex drive is up, my body fat is up and my weights are up. I did go through panic attacks for the first time in my life thank you very much. Low self esteem, no erections, jacked up dry skin, cant sleep, turned into Mr. Cardio? What the fcuk? Get the picture. I think there are guys out there that can do gear and have no problems, and the others can pm me……………lol.

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Old 08-09-2004, 10:28 AM   #42 (permalink)
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lol, i had gyno problems with deca, almost sure it was, (was UG lab stuff i had the problem, might of been OD. The norma i didnt have aproblem, so im gonna try the yellow tops and see if i get gyno, if i do, i know not to use deca again But atleast ive tried every viable option
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Old 08-09-2004, 12:12 PM   #43 (permalink)
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is it just me - or is anyone that is fairly new to the scene of Steroids find this thread bloody s?#t your pants scary.

I was quite happily plodding along with my first cycle of Test/EQ, and now I feel instantly worried. Should not have read this one...lol

Sorry to hear about some of your bad experiences guys.
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Mac, solongs as you have done your research and have the PCT on hand incase you need it, your laughing

Im lucky cos i knew i had to take nolva stright away, i got no gyno and the little lump that was there, has now gone
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Mac, it really matters how much, how long, which one (AAS), how old you are and other variables too, along with some luck and good judgement.
Some guys are fine, some only do one cycle. Many guys just wont say that they are all messed up and just dont talk about it.
I swear by a solid PCT is being one of the most important things you can do. This makes all the diffrence in the world in keeping those hard earned gains. After all this is what it is all about.

But, what goes up must come down and this is what it does.
I think Panthro said it best about playing Russian Rhoulette with your hormones, sometimes no probs and sometimes there are probs.

What works for me might not work for you.

So with that said, do a sensible cycle with a good PCT and see how it all goes.
If you want to have a good PCT, you can PM me and I will set you up one. It will cost you for the meds tho.
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