get me big

right getlemen this is just a general question and not saying i am gonna do one but. how long into training do you consider doing a cycle. i only ask as have been religiously following my diet and training and am feeling and looking better than ever. i am working out three times a week and pushing myself to the absolute limit, and i love it. but as i have been trying to make you all aware i am wanting to increase mypressance and i cant go to the gym every day (but ii want to lol) as this would over work my body and undo my work so far and have been reading every aspect of this site for weeks. and just want to know how i can step things up a notch or two.all the lads at work are trying to push me to gear. but did not want to go this way till i put at least a stone on naturally(and am **** scared of needles lol). but after reading up on the web i found a lovely looking oral cycle of anadrol nova and chlomid. but like i say when do i think about hitting a cycle and how dangerous to the liver are oral cycles????????
like i say go easy lads i am just generally asking:confused:

darkiwi

hi , personaly i would stick to your goal of gaining that stone natrualy then try to keep gaining natural untill you platue out. dont jump into gear to soon try and get the gains natural bro just my 10c good luck, every one will ask you to post your diet and training details befor they recomend any gear ect

oh and also check out samari69 d-bol log for a good light d-bol cycle im sure you've read this already

TaintedSoul

I really reaaaallllyy dont think a first timer to steroids should be looking at Anadrol as though it's lovely. Mate it's oxymetholone and considered one of the most potents steroids around. You dont skip beers and go straight to Stroh rum 80% alchohol when you start drinking.

A stone should be easy to gain when you first enter the gym. Try push training upto 4 days a week. Keep it simple, loads of compound exercises and get that foundation built.

Would be nice to see your training program and diet. Post them up so everyone can give you some pointers. Your mates at work are not helping you by saying just take steroids. Getting you training right, eating right and then looking at a course would be helping you. Only way you will get the most out of it.

wogihao

Agreed runing anadrol on your first cycle is like fisting a virgin. Overkill...

TaintedSoul

PMSL - well now... that's another way to explain it!!! lol

darkiwi

wow wogi u fiend lol nice .... l

get me big

cheers gents. i am alway's changing what meals i eat but it is alway's clean and roughly same nutrition wise( i beleive).
wake 2scoops whey heaped tsp creatine 100g oats 1 egg yakult milk
meal1 3-4 eggs 3-4 slices wholemeal bread
meal2 4 shredded wheat / weetabix around a pint of ilk
lunch tuna or chicken salad sarnie
dinner home made spagbol or fish homemade sauce and pasta
shake 2 scoops whey heaped tsp creatine peanutbutter milk
meal3 porridge and honey
meal 4 3-4 eggs and toast
snacks fruit nuts flapjacks the odd tin of tuna
i drink about two litre of water a day and bout alitre of tropicana

train monday wednesday and friday
10 mins cardio
leg press 160
leg curls 105
calf raises 105
lat pull down 120
seated rows 120
seated bench press 80
seated fly 55
tricep extentions 60
bicep curls 60
tricep calble extentions 35
bicep cable extentions 45

i have no idea why the cable extensions are so low thats what the instructor told me and do excuse if i got the name of the machines wrongi just go to them instinctively and couldn't get copy of my programe as no gym today as some one done over my motor lol. any help would be grate lads am due to see instructor next week as this programe beomes obsolete then. :confused:

bigd1985

going back to what u said initially mate, how long have you been training? also the training you are doing isn't very useful for someone trying to put on mass. have a read around the site pal there's some great posts on 3 day split training routines. the push/pull/legs split was something that was brought to my attention recently and appears to be effective. but like the boys said previously i would avoid steroids until u feel u have gone as far as u can naturally. also oxymethelone....no...just no. not at first. best of luck with ur training pal.

big dave :lift:

get me big

cheers fella like i said was only generally asking i have not been doing it long at all only really like the last month and a half (its the lads at work constantly on about gear that got me so intrigued) also when i joined the gym th instructor asked what my goals were and i said GET ME BIG lol and that was the routine he gave me 3x10 on the above am not a big lad at all at bang on 6ft (just measuered) and now weighing 10 3/4 stone (approx 3/4 stone gained in the last six weeks) and possibly the worlds smallest doorman (now head doorman) and seriously want to increase my pressance and have been trying since i was 16 now 24 so anadrol and gear in general for me is a no no. ok can anyone think of any thing to help me go further faster (impatient i know but something has worked so far and want more lol) whats the push pull legs split about????????? how can i bulk faster HELP ME PLEASE lol

Lost Soul

With all due respect the training posted is something i would expect from an esporta trainee gym instructor
If you want to juice think of all the things beyond the steroids which will make you huge with them generally being:

patience
time
rest
a good diet which is varied and can be kept up without issues

From what you have posted most will say stay away, I for one, and there are plenty of routes to go for. If you dont know what a 3 day split should be, start there, not with something that will potentially fcuk you up

cyberheater

Ha ha. Reps for that one.

In terms of your training. I don't see nearly enough compound movements there. Where are the deads, squats, chins and dips?

TaintedSoul

Looks like you spending too much time on the machines and not enough time doing free weights.

The Real Deal

You need more protein intake from what i can see and throw in some Vitimins B6 and B12 that should put on some extra weight without taking any steriods at the moment.

get me big

well gentlemen back to the drawing board for a rethink will try and pack in more food maybe also have the third protein shake and then have a look through and design myself a programe (obviously will post it up for you to guide me along) many thanks gentlemen
Terry

irwit

I think youd gain more changing your routine than adding steroids.