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Biker · 26-08-2004, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Big A

It's actually 'most'.
The only size loss is the one due to the inflamation that goes away after the shots are finished. That is the inflamation caused by the trauma of injecting so often.

hmmm can't say I agree mate, I know a lot of people who have used it and it would average out that they keep about half the size (or perhaps slightly more than half) they gained don't get me wrong they were all happy with that and IMHO I think that's a good enough result. But let's keep it realistic and not just a sales pitch.

Big A · 26-08-2004, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Biker

hmmm can't say I agree mate, I know a lot of people who have used it and it would average out that they keep about half the size (or perhaps slightly more than half) they gained don't get me wrong they were all happy with that and IMHO I think that's a good enough result. But let's keep it realistic and not just a sales pitch.

You just said what I did. Most is anything more than half.

And it's no sales pitch. If one uses it CORRECTLY, he will keep most of the size thereafter. If one doesn't use it correctly, then most likely he will lose everything he gained.
Just like a steroid user - using steroids correctly, one will keep most of the gains. They don't use correctly they will lose all they gained on their cycle.

Biker · 26-08-2004, 04:25 PM

ok mate then I agree with what you're saying

Some people idea of most may have been more so I thought it worth mentioning.

Big A · 26-08-2004, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheater2K

but my first worry if any, its like fake muscle (so to speak) also would you loose movment in your arm if your injecting pure silicon into it?

That is the main misconception - people think that the gains that they get are from pumping oil in there, as such it's 'fake' muscle.
That is what happens with abuse - people inject the hell out of their bodies, ending up with deformed muscles because they put too much oil in there.
The whole purpose of SEO's is to get one past plateus by injecting the oil in there to stretch the fascia. When a proper cycle is finished (4 weeks), the a maintanance period begins where the oil dissipates and one is supposed to be in an ideal anabolic environment (gear, food, rest, training) so the muscles that the oil was injected in, grow to fill in the 'space' left by the oil. Note that there is no space as such (it's just a figure of speach to make matters simpler). The fascia is very stretched and flexible due to the oil (the fascia is a limiting factor in muscle growth) and as such the muscle grows very easily, so the end size remains permanent.

You won't lose movement at all if you inject properly - very slowly, lots of massage and stretching after every shot.

Don't confuse silicone with silica. Silica is what's found in SEO's and it's a naturally occuring substance in nature. You can even buy silica tablets at the health food store. Silicone will probably kill you if you inject it - that is what they use in implants, in construction, etc. Totally different substances.

Biker · 26-08-2004, 04:39 PM

Big A what do you think of the Underground Lab Apex's Cosmostan?

I know a few that have used it and found it ok but not as good as your brand.

**hackskii** · 26-08-2004, 04:39 PM

I agree there is an application for using it but not unless you are going to turn pro.
Now stretching out the fascia can be done naturally too by getting a huge pump and stretching the muscle (this is painfull). Arnold used to do this by using flyes to streatch out his chest.
This kindof therapy for stretching out the fascia is the more natural approach and using the oils can give you like hernia in the fascia.
If not carefull or abused this will give you some of the must unsemetrical arms you can ever immagine.

Fascia gives you support.
The most fascia is in the calves as this has the most weight bearing loads. Mother nature is pretty smart.

Biker · 26-08-2004, 04:44 PM

I wouldn't say it's just for pros mate, many people have rugby ball shaped biceps with no peak, it's just their genetics they don't have peaks, used of SEO allows them to create them, also worth considering if you have a lagging bodypart.

26-08-2004, 04:52 PM

my thoughts on SEO's would probably get me banned.

**hackskii** · 26-08-2004, 04:58 PM

I never had a good bicep and no matter how hard or not hard I have worked them I know I will never have a good bicep.
But I would be afraid of the disfiguring of the arm at an attempt for size. Once the fascia ruptures/hernates this is perminant. Plus the fascia does give support. Fascia is really strong and I think I read somewhere stronger than steal cell for cell.

Biker · 26-08-2004, 05:04 PM

I don't know anyone IRL that's been disfgured by it mate, massaging the muscle after injecting is IMHO the single most important factor of using SEO.

They had a great offer for US customers earlier this year if I remember it was buy 5 bottles at a greatly reduced price, sadly they never offered the same offer in the UK.

**hackskii** · 26-08-2004, 05:12 PM

Man, I hate needles and the thought of putting that into the bicep sends shivers down my yellow spine.
Biker send me the link and lets see what this stuff runs.
Is it legal?
If so do you want me to send you some?

Biker · 26-08-2004, 05:19 PM

http://www.synthetek.com is the link mate, but I'm pretty sure the offer isn't running anymore. Perfectly legal.

I would inject my biceps anyhow when on a cycle so it wouldn't bother me, though I've never tried using it myself.

winger · 26-08-2004, 07:02 PM

I have a buddy that hit his arms and shoulders and you can feel it and see it. It looks like crap if you ask me. Yes he has 21 inch arms and he is about 5'10". Doing a double bicept I quess it looks impressive but no thickness, just peak. When you grab the arm you can feel it. Yes he has kept the size but once again you can see it. I think it makes a weak link in the muscle if you ask me.

**hackskii** · 26-08-2004, 07:04 PM

Just looked. Wow, now that is the same price of gear, with the exception that the oil is 100mil.
Biker, would not injecting gear at 1 mil a time do some stretching of the fascia as well? I am not talking about local injections for site but the stretching out as gear has oil in it.

winger · 27-08-2004, 02:00 AM

Been to your site and here is a guy that you posted. Now tell me if you want to do site oils. Paul dont delete this one!

26-08-2004, 04:39 PM	#36 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 24,425	I agree there is an application for using it but not unless you are going to turn pro. Now stretching out the fascia can be done naturally too by getting a huge pump and stretching the muscle (this is painfull). Arnold used to do this by using flyes to streatch out his chest. This kindof therapy for stretching out the fascia is the more natural approach and using the oils can give you like hernia in the fascia. If not carefull or abused this will give you some of the must unsemetrical arms you can ever immagine. Fascia gives you support. The most fascia is in the calves as this has the most weight bearing loads. Mother nature is pretty smart. __________________ Scott

26-08-2004, 04:58 PM	#39 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 24,425	I never had a good bicep and no matter how hard or not hard I have worked them I know I will never have a good bicep. But I would be afraid of the disfiguring of the arm at an attempt for size. Once the fascia ruptures/hernates this is perminant. Plus the fascia does give support. Fascia is really strong and I think I read somewhere stronger than steal cell for cell. __________________ Scott

26-08-2004, 05:12 PM	#41 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 24,425	Man, I hate needles and the thought of putting that into the bicep sends shivers down my yellow spine. Biker send me the link and lets see what this stuff runs. Is it legal? If so do you want me to send you some? __________________ Scott

26-08-2004, 07:04 PM	#44 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 24,425	Just looked. Wow, now that is the same price of gear, with the exception that the oil is 100mil. Biker, would not injecting gear at 1 mil a time do some stretching of the fascia as well? I am not talking about local injections for site but the stretching out as gear has oil in it. __________________ Scott

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26-08-2004, 04:25 PM	#33 (permalink)
Biker Part of the UK-M furniture... gathering dust in the corner :) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 3,802	ok mate then I agree with what you're saying Some people idea of most may have been more so I thought it worth mentioning.

26-08-2004, 04:39 PM	#35 (permalink)
Biker Part of the UK-M furniture... gathering dust in the corner :) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 3,802	Big A what do you think of the Underground Lab Apex's Cosmostan? I know a few that have used it and found it ok but not as good as your brand.

26-08-2004, 04:44 PM	#37 (permalink)
Biker Part of the UK-M furniture... gathering dust in the corner :) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 3,802	I wouldn't say it's just for pros mate, many people have rugby ball shaped biceps with no peak, it's just their genetics they don't have peaks, used of SEO allows them to create them, also worth considering if you have a lagging bodypart.

26-08-2004, 04:52 PM	#38 (permalink)
James.Titor Guest Posts: n/a	my thoughts on SEO's would probably get me banned.

26-08-2004, 05:04 PM	#40 (permalink)
Biker Part of the UK-M furniture... gathering dust in the corner :) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 3,802	I don't know anyone IRL that's been disfgured by it mate, massaging the muscle after injecting is IMHO the single most important factor of using SEO. They had a great offer for US customers earlier this year if I remember it was buy 5 bottles at a greatly reduced price, sadly they never offered the same offer in the UK.

26-08-2004, 05:19 PM	#42 (permalink)
Biker Part of the UK-M furniture... gathering dust in the corner :) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 3,802	http://www.synthetek.com is the link mate, but I'm pretty sure the offer isn't running anymore. Perfectly legal. I would inject my biceps anyhow when on a cycle so it wouldn't bother me, though I've never tried using it myself.

26-08-2004, 07:02 PM	#43 (permalink)
winger UK-Muscle Male Animal Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 10,413 Blog Entries: 1	I have a buddy that hit his arms and shoulders and you can feel it and see it. It looks like crap if you ask me. Yes he has 21 inch arms and he is about 5'10". Doing a double bicept I quess it looks impressive but no thickness, just peak. When you grab the arm you can feel it. Yes he has kept the size but once again you can see it. I think it makes a weak link in the muscle if you ask me.

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