1988-s.leeson

im still cutting for my next show but have an idea what i want to do for my next bulking corse.

cast an eye over and see what you think.

EQ 600mg/wk (front loaded 4weeks/ weeks 1-8)
testex 750mg/wk (weeks 1-8)
oxymetholone 50mg/ed (weeks 1-4)
d-bol 40mg/ed (weeks 3-8)

help with designing pct wuld be appreciated

scott

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denny

What was your last PCT Scott? Is that you in the pic?

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1988-s.leeson

yes that is me in the pic.

well i actually wnt some help with my pct for after my cuting corse, so any hep welcomed

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denny

Impressive.

Have you used slin / IGF in PCT before?

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1988-s.leeson

no i havent

thanks

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If you going to do a cycle like that, I would add in slin. Its cheap and highly efective.:lift:

denny

This advice JUST FOR YOU - anyone else reading just ignore.

Think about something like this:

Get a private clinic blood hormone count in the last week of cycle (about 40 quid). From this we'll look at the likely degradation times and we'll calculate an accurate cool off period and compare it to a recent baseline test. I'll help here if you post again.

Through this eriod add an oral (I guess you're doing this already.)
Add prov too.

Through this period, add hCG with whatever has worked for you in the past. If not susceptible to gyno, high doses can help.

PCT (bodyweight dependant):

25mg prov every day. 20mcg clen every day for 4 weeks.
50mcg igf every training day with suitable carbs (Lion bars are good)
Hyperdose vit C and creatine


day 1: 150mg clompid/60mg nolva.
day 2 - 8: 50mg clomid/40mg nolva
day 9 - 21 50mg clomid / 20mg nolva.

week off (keep up the IGF)

then

4 weeks of slin, 6 IU in AM, another 6 post workout on workout days.

If the fat is staying off, and perhaps adding GH through the off time, keep cycling IGF and slin in 3 or 4 week batches until hitting your next bulker.

You may start to add fat with the slin - just back off on it if it's a problem.

Good luck.

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beequeth

Denny, is 20mcg clen enough to reduce cortisol rebound in your opinion ?

denny

tough call mate. Many use double that. Personally I dislike the drug, so use 20mcg and add more if required.

TBH, there's not that much evidence that hit hits a cortisol rebound (although I believe it does).

A PCT like that shouldn't really be taken at face value - use personal experience to adjust values to your body - it's quite advanced (and not without danger). He's a big lad for someone so young - IMO the doses are a good starting point.

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1988-s.leeson

can i not do a normal pct corse useing nolva clomid hcg??

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yes.

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How old are you scott?

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DB

yo!

ok i dont think you should be running that much gear at your age.. HOWEVER.. u have a huge chance of winning the british championships in the next 2 years so...

EQ 600mg/wk (front loaded 4weeks/ weeks 1-8) Swap EQ for 400mg deca much stronger and more efficent mass building compound imo
testex 750mg/wk (weeks 1-8)fine but run for 9 weeks
oxymetholone 50mg/ed (weeks 1-4) Wouldnt bother imo.. just run the dbol from here instead but stop at week 5
d-bol 40mg/ed (weeks 3-5)
Test prop 100mg EOD weeks 9-11
winny 50mg ED weeks 9-11

SLin&GH i would leave at your age mate..

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1988-s.leeson

im 19, but will be 20 when running this corse.

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1988-s.leeson

db, i dont want to be doing slin and gh anyway.

the corse was designed partly due to the fact that i already have oxymeth, and eq siting around and there seems no point in leaving them lying around.

i do have some prop so that can def be added in and i can get winny any time so that is fine too.

i know it is a lot of gear but it is going to be my main bulking corse for the year, after my pct it should be fairly close to when i start cuting again for next year.

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