YoungGun

Im Thinking about starting a cycle of this, however ive read many different opinions i wondered if anyone could clear this up with some facts on this.
Firstly as this is called "natural" as they put it, im assuming this doesnt actually stop your own test production? True? Also once the cycle has finished at around 8 weeks is there any pct needed at all, even if its just some nolva? Lastly this has 6-Bromodione in it so this is why i ask all these questions, has anyone had experience with this and what gains it can bring with a good diet and training plan. Any help would be mucg appreciated, thanks alot Ad

mars1960

Forget it mate, don't waste your money.

YoungGun

Whys this? What would you suggest as an alternative?

BBWarehouse

It gets very good reviews in the US, and I know several ppl who've tried the Ax stack:

Mass FX
Hyperdrol X2
Retain2

And seen good results from it.

It's not Dbol....but for a supplement that you don't need PCT from, it's very good. A step up from creatine.

BBWarehouse

In terms of Legal stuff - i.e. not steroids, growth hormone or stuff like that - you have several choices.

ALRI:

Jungle Warfare - probably doesn't need PCT since it's only mildly anabolic
BAM (Bad Ass Mass) - similar to Hyperdrol, in fact off the top of my head, same active ingredients, and ALRI licensded the Hyperdrol formula to AX
Restore - Like AX retain

Anabolic Xtreme:

Mass FX - loads of info on this, just look it up. A good stand alone sup.
Hyperdrol X2 - like BAM, not as good on it's own as Mass FX or Jungle Warfare, but great in a stack of the above 1 or other.

Superdrol NG - AX's latest pro-hormone / designer steroid. Not heard reviews yet, but they usually have good stuff, could give it a go and tell us what it's like lol

3-AD - out in the next month or so, latest/greatest pro-hormone / designer steroid. Worth a look once it's released...again.

Hope that helps.

Personally, I'd go for the ALRI Evolution stack:

Jungle Warfare
BAM
Restore

It gets great reviews in the US, and doesn't *generally* need PCT - meaning I've never heard of anyone needing PCT, or getting shut down or developing any other problems, but *in theory* you should have it on hand.

mars1960

Forget the so called designer supps, unlike aas there are no relevant studies done, who knows what the long term effects of these "supps" can have on you.
You say its not dbol, well no, but at least we know from over 50 years of medical and anecdotal evidence what we can expect from it, we know the gains, we know the sides,we know the long term effects.
Like i said mate, forget it.

Tall

One of the BB'ers on MuscleChat.co.uk ran Hyperdol for 4 weeks, these were the results:

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If you have the money to waste, then its an option, but an expensive one in reality.

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YoungGun

Thanks for the input, im not ready for a cycleof dbol yet so i was looking for something milder, i assume this would be pretty much the same a mass fx as thats also a "designer" supp, do you have any suggestions where would be the best way to go wouldbe in terms of something similar, effect wise and amount of pct et. Thanks Ad