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| | Most people wouldn't understand cos they have an automatic built in reaction that is just learned with no actual thought
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| Re: can i get my testicles back? asfter 7 months I have times through out the day where my nuts feel bigger...i think it may just be a normal thing.
Try and get that blood test...just say to the doc that you took some weight training supplements a few months ago and now you are experiencing lack of libido, erectile dysfunction etc...and you would like a blood test to determine whether you have some how damaged you HPTA axis. Ask him to put down: LH, FSH, TESTOSTERONE, ESTRODIAL, PROLACTIN, SHBG, ALBUMIN.
you could then make some real progress on this :-)
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| Re: can i get my testicles back? asfter 7 months How manys guys keep feeling their nuts throughout the day?
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| Re: can i get my testicles back? asfter 7 months Quote:
Originally Posted by TaintedSoul How manys guys keep feeling their nuts throughout the day? | LOL
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| Re: can i get my testicles back? asfter 7 months Quote:
Originally Posted by brownie have you got any pain??
I had an op for torsion where my testies would swell up and go to normal, very painfull.. this was before i took steriods... but ok now | no pain dude . |
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| Re: can i get my testicles back? asfter 7 months Quote:
Originally Posted by cwoody123 I have times through out the day where my nuts feel bigger...i think it may just be a normal thing.
Try and get that blood test...just say to the doc that you took some weight training supplements a few months ago and now you are experiencing lack of libido, erectile dysfunction etc...and you would like a blood test to determine whether you have some how damaged you HPTA axis. Ask him to put down: LH, FSH, TESTOSTERONE, ESTRODIAL, PROLACTIN, SHBG, ALBUMIN.
you could then make some real progress on this :-) | had my testosterone levels checked on friday ithe card just said testosterone levels checked so would that include my lh amd my fsh or will i have to ask for another test ? |
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| | Most people wouldn't understand cos they have an automatic built in reaction that is just learned with no actual thought
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| Re: can i get my testicles back? asfter 7 months Quote:
Originally Posted by wilsonrob had my testosterone levels checked on friday ithe card just said testosterone levels checked so would that include my lh amd my fsh or will i have to ask for another test ? | Probably not bud. what i normally do is add the extra to the form and no one is any the wiser ;-)
O well at least if your T comes back low then you can more easily demand the the others to be checked.
And don't let them fob you off with the words "they are normal" ask for the values and the ref range.
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31-03-2008, 07:31 PM
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| Re: can i get my testicles back? asfter 7 months Quote:
Originally Posted by cwoody123 Probably not bud. what i normally do is add the extra to the form and no one is any the wiser ;-)
O well at least if your T comes back low then you can more easily demand the the others to be checked.
And don't let them fob you off with the words "they are normal" ask for the values and the ref range.
Good luck  | whats the test called that includes lh and fsh what test do i actually ask for? |
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| Re: can i get my testicles back? asfter 7 months No name for it, just ask for LH & FSH to be tested also.
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| Re: can i get my testicles back? asfter 7 months Quote:
Originally Posted by cwoody123 No name for it, just ask for LH & FSH to be tested also. | the reason i ask is that when i mentioned this to the nurse she looked at me and said im not really sure what your talking about also when i get my blood tests back what reason do i give for wanting a copy and will they give me one ? |
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| | Most people wouldn't understand cos they have an automatic built in reaction that is just learned with no actual thought
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| Re: can i get my testicles back? asfter 7 months Quote:
Originally Posted by wilsonrob the reason i ask is that when i mentioned this to the nurse she looked at me and said im not really sure what your talking about also when i get my blood tests back what reason do i give for wanting a copy and will they give me one ? | the reason they look at you blankly is because they ain't got a clue what your talking about...welcome to the NHS lol
You are entitled to know your results...Just phone up and say you are waiting on your blood test results coming back. they will then check and say "everything is normal" or there is a slight problem. You then say you need the values.
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| Re: can i get my testicles back? asfter 7 months well been to the docs and everythings fine he says il just have to live with the shrinkage so iwas going to run a course of clomid or nolvadex which one would be best ho help my balls back to size ? |
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| Re: can i get my testicles back? asfter 7 months Quote:
Originally Posted by wilsonrob well been to the docs and everythings fine he says il just have to live with the shrinkage so iwas going to run a course of clomid or nolvadex which one would be best ho help my balls back to size ? | Everything is fine! Did you not ask for the values? I did say they would do this.
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| Re: can i get my testicles back? asfter 7 months Quote:
Originally Posted by wilsonrob well been to the docs and everythings fine he says il just have to live with the shrinkage so iwas going to run a course of clomid or nolvadex which one would be best ho help my balls back to size ? |
I would try do a little research into how your body works mate. How test production is controlled and get clued up. It's ok us firing acronyms like LH and FSH at you but you need to understand what they are so that you can push the doc to give you results you need. From there you need to formulate a long term recovery plan- and I do mean long term if you plan to get 100% back to normal.
If you asked for LH and FSH to be tested then of course the nurse would look blank. The letters are only used in text form.
Whatever the outcome, I feel a doc or even and endocrinologist would not offer a satisfactory treatment. To mentioned a pal of mine who was suffering shut down like you. He was told that it may take year to recover but time was all that he was offered. He quoted his planned PCT which was extremely well thought out and the doc just said 'well looks like you know what your doing, I would go with that'. The current treatment for testicular atrophy caused by AAS is less effective than most well constructed long term PCT plans.
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| Re: can i get my testicles back? asfter 7 months Quote:
Originally Posted by cwoody123 Everything is fine! Did you not ask for the values? I did say they would do this. | what happened i was at the docs on another matter and the doc said i may as well give you your results so he went through it and said everything was fine so i said thanks and left as my son was seeing the nurse next door and my mind was else where what il do is call back up one day this week and ask them to photo copy the results and hopefully they will then i will post them for all to see and hopefully get back to normal. |
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| Re: can i get my testicles back? asfter 7 months Quote:
Originally Posted by pauly7582 I would try do a little research into how your body works mate. How test production is controlled and get clued up. It's ok us firing acronyms like LH and FSH at you but you need to understand what they are so that you can push the doc to give you results you need. From there you need to formulate a long term recovery plan- and I do mean long term if you plan to get 100% back to normal.
If you asked for LH and FSH to be tested then of course the nurse would look blank. The letters are only used in text form.
Whatever the outcome, I feel a doc or even and endocrinologist would not offer a satisfactory treatment. To mentioned a pal of mine who was suffering shut down like you. He was told that it may take year to recover but time was all that he was offered. He quoted his planned PCT which was extremely well thought out and the doc just said 'well looks like you know what your doing, I would go with that'. The current treatment for testicular atrophy caused by AAS is less effective than most well constructed long term PCT plans. | you got any long term pct help plans for me ? and did your freind get his balls back to size after his planned pct .?
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