mractive

week 1-8 tren ace 50mg ed
week 1-8 mast prop @ 75mg ed
week 1-8 test prop @50mg ed
week 1-8 winny @50mg ed
week 1-2 clen @ 40-80mcg
week 2-4 eca @25/100/150 - 50/150/300
week 4-6 clen @ 60-100 mcg
week 6-8 eca @ 50/150/300 - 75/200/300
week 9 5000iu split into 3 over week
week 9 - 12 nolva 20mg ed

what do u lot think of this cycle iv just finsihed a prop/npp/dbol bulk want to cut for july

ed injections isnt going to be nice but think i can hack it, well hoping i will.

diet cardio getting sorted too.

mars1960

JMO, but i'd be incline to drop the mast and up the tren dose, the mast will be outweighed by the much stronger tren.

bodybuilder

what brand of tren ace and test prop are you using?

mractive

clp on both, clp is the best prop iv tried as an all rounder meaning pain etc. bd seemed to give better gains but it has a few times made me bed ridden so thinking of staying clear if i can.

so overall this is ok? i am not atall tollerating limp dick, so thats why i dont wanna raise the tren amounts, first time using it and have a new girlfriend so dont wanna cause problems with labido.

cheers for the fast response guys

sorry what does JMO mean? im a bit slow with this internet stuff

gym rat

jmo... just my opinion

mractive

ha, oh ok makes sence now

mractive

so is this cycle ok? dont want to strong sides off tren. as explained already

Pscarb

no need to jab any of these products everyday eod at the minimum you could actually get away with e3d
100mg of each eod for 8 weeks will do dont see why it should be any more complex than this....

I would use the HCG during the course 5000iu's in one week will most definitely open the possibility to damaging your nuts and causing a rebound, 500iu's ew through the cycle is all you need...

if you have just done a cycle and then you are going onto this cycle you will need a little more than just 20mg of nolva ed for PCT you should use clomid and nolva...

non of these steroids will actually cut you up this is down to diet so make sure this is clean...

mractive

cheers for the advice mate, im nearly finsihed my pct for the bulking cycle going to have a good few weeks off to make sure im back to normal or atleast on the way back to normal then start last week of april, first week of june.

yer i keep hearing varying opinon on hcg, i understand tren is quiet supressive so makes sence to stop them shrinking atall, i also understand that diet and cardio r key to getting cut. but generally is this a good cycle for what i want? what i want is to be cut while obviously gaining as much lean muscle as i can, dont mind if i stay same weight to be honest just not lose any.

so 4 weeks of clomid and nolva 2 days after final jab.

Pscarb

i can garentee mate you will not stay the same weight, the chances of you gaining lean tissue whilst stripping fat is very very hard even for a competing bodybuilder who i would guess is nailing their diets more than you will be.
you will lose weight this is a fact but as long as you eat clean and enough calories to hold your fat free weight then you will look bigger although you wont be bigger...

i diet on sus250 when i compete so like i said diet is key

mractive

any extra muscle would of just been a bonus as long as i look cut il be happy, cheers for the advice mate much appreciated.