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Old 19-03-2008, 09:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Thoughts about this SUST Chart

I was skimming through some forums today and i came by this sust chart.
It looks very interesting to me. but i wish there was 2x/w and 1x/w included.
What do you guys think.


Every day shot
days.. amount taken.......the amount in the blood stream
1 ..............200mgs ................190mgs
2 ..............200 .......................351
3 ..............200 .......................487
4 ..............150 .......................555
5 ..............150 .......................612
6 ..............100 .......................613
7 ..............100 .......................614
Week 2
8 ..............100 .......................615
9 ..............100 .......................616
10.............100 .......................616
11.............100 .......................617
12.............100 .......................617
13.............100 .......................617
14.............100 .......................618
Week 3
15............100 .......................618
16............100 .......................618
17............100 .......................618
18............100 .......................618
19............100 .......................618
20............100 .......................619
21............100 .......................619
Week 4
22............100 .......................619
23............100 .......................619
24............100 .......................619
25............100 .......................619
26............100 .......................619
27............100 .......................619
28............100 .......................619
Week 5
29...,........100 .......................619
30............100 .......................619
31............100 .......................619
32............100 .......................619
33............100 .......................619
34............100 .......................619
35............100 .......................619
Week 6
36............100 .......................619
37............100 .......................619
38............100 .......................619
39............100 .......................619
40............100 .......................619
41............100 .......................619
42............100 .......................619
Week 7
43............100 .......................619
44............100 .......................619
45............100 .......................619
46............100 .......................619
47............100 .......................619
48............100 .......................619
49............100 .......................619
Week 8
50............100 .......................619
51............100 .......................619
52............100 .......................619
53............100 .......................619
54............100 .......................619
55............100 .......................619
56............100 .......................619

Here is the normal 3 times a week chart
Monday, Wednesday, Friday shots
It never gets stable, just develops a pattern after week 7

1 ...250 .......................238
2 ...0 ..........................201
3 ...250 .......................409
4 ...0 ..........................346
5 ...250 .......................532
6 ...0 ..........................451
7 ...0 ..........................384
Week 2
8 ...250 .......................566
9 ...0 ..........................480
10...250 .......................646
11...0 ..........................547
12...250 .......................703
13...0 ..........................595
14...0 ..........................507
Week 3
15...250 .......................672
16...0 ..........................569
17...250 .......................722
18...0 ..........................611
19...250 .......................758
20...0 ..........................642
21...0 ..........................547
Week 4
22...250 .......................706
23...0 ..........................598
24...250 .......................747
25...0 ..........................632
26...250 .......................776
27...0 ..........................657
28...0 ..........................560
Week 5
29...250 .......................717
30...0 ..........................607
31...250 .......................755
32...0 ..........................639
33...250 .......................782
34...0 ..........................662
35...0 ..........................564
Week 6
36...250 .......................721
37...0 ..........................610
38...250 .......................757
39...0 ..........................641
40...250 .......................784
41...0 ..........................663
42...0 ..........................656
Week 7
43...250 .......................722
44...0 ..........................611
45...250 .......................758
46...0 ..........................642
47...250 .......................784
48...0 ..........................664
49...250 .......................566
Week 8
50...250 .......................722
51...0 ..........................611
52...250 .......................758
53...0 ..........................642
54...250 .......................784
55...0 ..........................664
56...0...........................566
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Old 19-03-2008, 10:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Thoughts about this SUST Chart

What i would want to know is how the original poster explained that the blood levels where raising in week 2 whilst injecting 100mg ed but then from week 3 they stay constant whilst injecting the same amount??
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Old 19-03-2008, 11:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
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What i would want to know is how the original poster explained that the blood levels where raising in week 2 whilst injecting 100mg ed but then from week 3 they stay constant whilst injecting the same amount??
i'm probably wrong but i would guess that after the first couple of weeks the initial doses had cleared the system.. as you squirt in more then the older doses are clearing making the levels constant...

like i said, i'm probably wrong....
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Old 19-03-2008, 11:20 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Thoughts about this SUST Chart

Thats a lot of blood work
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Old 19-03-2008, 11:23 PM   #5 (permalink)
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What i would want to know is how the original poster explained that the blood levels where raising in week 2 whilst injecting 100mg ed but then from week 3 they stay constant whilst injecting the same amount??
A combination of voodoo and other magic I would imagine
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Re: Thoughts about this SUST Chart

i understand what you are saying slamdog but sus is a multi ester test therefore logic dictates some esters will be faster than others, what the chart is saying is that from day 1 to day 2 on week 3 onwards the levels drop by exactly 100mg ed then are replaced by 100mg injected this cannot happen with sus due to clearence times of sus....you would get a rise on one day then a slight drop then a raise after the injection but the rise and fall would not be the exact same amounts...
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Thats a lot of blood work
I was thinking that. But he probably got his info from something.
but what. It would be interesting to find out if theres any truth behind this chart. i'v never seen anything like it.
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I was thinking that. But he probably got his info from something.
but what. It would be interesting to find out if theres any truth behind this chart. i'v never seen anything like it.
The blood work must be based on one subject, how would they take blood and get the results so fast?
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i understand what you are saying slamdog but sus is a multi ester test therefore logic dictates some esters will be faster than others, what the chart is saying is that from day 1 to day 2 on week 3 onwards the levels drop by exactly 100mg ed then are replaced by 100mg injected this cannot happen with sus due to clearence times of sus....you would get a rise on one day then a slight drop then a raise after the injection but the rise and fall would not be the exact same amounts...
i did say i was probably wrong!

certainly my theory would be good for a single ester or compound but where multi esters are concerned... it must be able to be calculated but i aint the person to do it... i got a headache trying to understand the way my kids were being taught subtraction when they were explaining it over dinner.
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maybe theres a way to work it out without the need of blood work.
56 tests in a row! that would suck you dry lol
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i have worked out the blood levels using certain injection methods over a 6 weeks period and non kept blood levels stable i wrote code to work out the results using half life's so it is not exact but close enough...

to be honest stable blood levels whilst on any gear is a myth you just cannot stabilise blood levels and why would you want to as the natural test levels are never stable....
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Re: Thoughts about this SUST Chart

It would be cool to see the code.

People who say take this or that EOD to keep your blood level stable. How whould they know if it was stable without blood tests. would there be signs or would they just compare gains from EOD or 2x/w.
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i have worked out the blood levels using certain injection methods over a 6 weeks period and non kept blood levels stable i wrote code to work out the results using half life's so it is not exact but close enough...

to be honest stable blood levels whilst on any gear is a myth you just cannot stabilise blood levels and why would you want to as the natural test levels are never stable....
Would also like to see this code if you giving it away. Often thought it would be nice to see the levels in your system from start to finish.
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Eod allows for the short esters in the sust
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Eod allows for the short esters in the sust

yah but do they make a difference. people say it doesnt properly kick in untill week 4-5. Wouldnt that be the long esters. where do the short ones come into play besides making you freekin horne.y lol
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