Cycle 3 : Opinions please - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

mark · 11-08-2004, 11:23 PM

September is 8 weeks since I finished clomid of cycle 2 (cyp 500mg/week).
Thinking of starting cycle 3 but adding an anabolic in to give an extra boost. I have decided to give my first cycle another try without the D-bol this time e.g.

Sustanon 250 at 500mg/week
deca at 400mg/week.

My first cycle was this plus 30mg of D-bol/day for 5 weeks - this cycle gave me mad gains (22lbs) but stupid bloat and fat face which I hated. My 2nd cycle of cyp was great - 10lbs gain and no bloat at all. Was it the D-bol that blew me up or do you think the sust and deca combo will give water retention?
My aim is good gains but with as little or no bloat.....

MEATNECK · 11-08-2004, 11:33 PM

dreaded moon face..
dbol and deca both cause alot of water retention.atleast for me
i run nolvadex at 10mg and l-dex at .25mg ed to combat this.
when running deca,or tren for that matter,i run b6 at 200mg ed as well to keep prolactin levels in check.
might consider swapping out the deca for eq.
personally id also go with a single ester test as well

winger · 12-08-2004, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MEATNECK

i run b6 at 200mg ed as well to keep prolactin levels in check.

Are you saying that vitamin b6 will help with prolactin levels?

**hackskii** · 12-08-2004, 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by winger

Are you saying that vitamin b6 will help with prolactin levels?

My question exactly.
I have never read this but not reading does not mean it aint so!
Please explain.

MEATNECK · 12-08-2004, 02:50 AM

yep,thats what im sayin

MEATNECK · 12-08-2004, 03:04 AM

go to anabolicreview or steroid.com..whatever it is now...search b6.there are hundreds of threads on this..pheedno also posted a study..
200mg b6 ed keeps prolactin levels low,if it does become a problem,lactation,bump to 600mg ed until it subsides then continue at 200mg..
i thought this was all common knowledge

winger · 12-08-2004, 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MEATNECK

go to anabolicreview or steroid.com..whatever it is now...search b6.there are hundreds of threads on this..pheedno also posted a study..
200mg b6 ed keeps prolactin levels low,if it does become a problem,lactation,bump to 600mg ed until it subsides then continue at 200mg..
i thought this was all common knowledge

Common knowledge....................I hate to appear stupid but I have never heard that before. I wish this knowledge was out there when I had elevated prolactin levels and had no sex drive.....................

No sex drive..........I hate when that happens.

My wife loved me post cycle.......except in bed.....lol:p

MEATNECK · 12-08-2004, 03:32 AM

lol...sorry to hear that bro.....
go check out some of those threads..i try to dig up that study pheedno posted on b6.
its very interesting..bromo has some nasty sides so anything to avoid using that is a good thing.

peace

winger · 12-08-2004, 03:42 AM

It is nice to see a fresh face. It is another to see a fresh face with new info. I stay informed. Bust a move on that article. I need more.

philipebrown · 12-08-2004, 10:27 AM

i think it was definitely the dbol that blew you up. Ive just stopped taking it for the same reason and have allready lost 1 inch from my waist and a bit of water

DB · 12-08-2004, 12:06 PM

i'm just about to start a dbol/sust cycle waiting for it to arrive

1-6:sust 250 @ 350mg week (shot of 250 every 5 days)
1-5:d-bol @ 25/30mg ED
+nolva and clomid PCT
wanna try a short cycle as i dont wanna b shut down for too long.

Did dbol only cycle last year and loved gained like a biatch and didn't lose much post cycle

**hackskii** · 12-08-2004, 02:51 PM

Prolactin can give you problems with the HPTA too.
I have read that your prolactin levels rise after an orgasim and this is one of the reasons why men cant achieve multiple orgasims.
Also I have read that playing with your nipples can raise your prolactin levels too.
B6, I will give that a good read today.

Thanks Meat

Sorry for the hyjack

Cheater2K · 12-08-2004, 04:51 PM

If its your first cycle, id just try sust for 8 weeks @ 500mg ew

11-08-2004, 11:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
mark Getting HUGE! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: West Midlands Posts: 1,360	Cycle 3 : Opinions please September is 8 weeks since I finished clomid of cycle 2 (cyp 500mg/week). Thinking of starting cycle 3 but adding an anabolic in to give an extra boost. I have decided to give my first cycle another try without the D-bol this time e.g. Sustanon 250 at 500mg/week deca at 400mg/week. My first cycle was this plus 30mg of D-bol/day for 5 weeks - this cycle gave me mad gains (22lbs) but stupid bloat and fat face which I hated. My 2nd cycle of cyp was great - 10lbs gain and no bloat at all. Was it the D-bol that blew me up or do you think the sust and deca combo will give water retention? My aim is good gains but with as little or no bloat.....

11-08-2004, 11:33 PM	#2 (permalink)
MEATNECK Gym Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: USA Posts: 197	dreaded moon face.. dbol and deca both cause alot of water retention.atleast for me i run nolvadex at 10mg and l-dex at .25mg ed to combat this. when running deca,or tren for that matter,i run b6 at 200mg ed as well to keep prolactin levels in check. might consider swapping out the deca for eq. personally id also go with a single ester test as well Last edited by MEATNECK; 11-08-2004 at 11:37 PM.

12-08-2004, 12:06 PM	#11 (permalink)
DB UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: SW London Posts: 11,831	i'm just about to start a dbol/sust cycle waiting for it to arrive 1-6:sust 250 @ 350mg week (shot of 250 every 5 days) 1-5:d-bol @ 25/30mg ED +nolva and clomid PCT wanna try a short cycle as i dont wanna b shut down for too long. Did dbol only cycle last year and loved gained like a biatch and didn't lose much post cycle Last edited by DB; 12-08-2004 at 12:09 PM.

12-08-2004, 02:51 PM	#12 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 24,425	Prolactin can give you problems with the HPTA too. I have read that your prolactin levels rise after an orgasim and this is one of the reasons why men cant achieve multiple orgasims. Also I have read that playing with your nipples can raise your prolactin levels too. B6, I will give that a good read today. Thanks Meat Sorry for the hyjack __________________ Scott

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12-08-2004, 02:50 AM	#5 (permalink)
MEATNECK Gym Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: USA Posts: 197	yep,thats what im sayin

12-08-2004, 03:04 AM	#6 (permalink)
MEATNECK Gym Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: USA Posts: 197	go to anabolicreview or steroid.com..whatever it is now...search b6.there are hundreds of threads on this..pheedno also posted a study.. 200mg b6 ed keeps prolactin levels low,if it does become a problem,lactation,bump to 600mg ed until it subsides then continue at 200mg.. i thought this was all common knowledge

12-08-2004, 03:32 AM	#8 (permalink)
MEATNECK Gym Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: USA Posts: 197	lol...sorry to hear that bro..... go check out some of those threads..i try to dig up that study pheedno posted on b6. its very interesting..bromo has some nasty sides so anything to avoid using that is a good thing. peace

12-08-2004, 03:42 AM	#9 (permalink)
winger UK-Muscle Male Animal Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 10,413 Blog Entries: 1	It is nice to see a fresh face. It is another to see a fresh face with new info. I stay informed. Bust a move on that article. I need more.

12-08-2004, 10:27 AM	#10 (permalink)
philipebrown Looking Freaky Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: north east Posts: 924	i think it was definitely the dbol that blew you up. Ive just stopped taking it for the same reason and have allready lost 1 inch from my waist and a bit of water

12-08-2004, 04:51 PM	#13 (permalink)
Cheater2K EFBB Winner Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: North Wales, UK Posts: 5,656	If its your first cycle, id just try sust for 8 weeks @ 500mg ew