2G Experiment Cycle - Very interesting read.... - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

damagedgoods · 11-08-2004, 06:17 PM

Guys - I was reading an article on another forum - found it pretty interesting and thought you might too....

The article

Here is an extract -

An experiment i've conducted.

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I have two buddies who are at similar levels in their stats. Here are the results of the experiement (i know some may view this as immoral for subject B, but he understood the risks involved)

Subject A:
24 years old, 10% bodyfat. Test levels are normal and has never run a cycle. Weight is at 210 lbs at 5 foot 8. He has a solid 365 bench.

Subject B:
25 years old, 11% bodyfat. Test levels are also normal and is completely clean. Weight is at 220 at 5 foot 10. He has benched 335 clean.

For subject A we agreed to put him on a standard "1st cycle", for this we used 500mg of Test enanthate (ICN's). The cycle duration is 10 weeks.

For subject B we agreed to put him on a much higher test only dose, 2 grams every week of enanthate.

For both subjects, shots were given in the mornings on mondays and thursdays.

Their diets were clean, but rather high calories. Both took in 5000 cals and stuck to their diets 100%. Protien was kept at 500 grams.

Their training schedule was as follows:

Day 1. Back
Day 2. Chest
Day 3. Quads
Day 4. Hams and calves
Day 5 Shoulders
Day 6 Arms

Ancillieries used:
Nolvadex at 10mg ed and ari at .5mg ed.

By the end of the fourth week, subject A had gained 5 lbs. Subject B had gained 19 lbs. Both subjects bodyfat went up 1% Subject A's bench had stayed the same while subject B had added 15 lbs to his bench.

By the end of the 8th week, subject A was up 14 lbs with the same bodyfat and subject B was up 32 lbs and his bench had jumped to 405 from 335 while subject A's bench had only crawled up 25 lbs from the start.

By the tenth and final week subject A had gained 26 lbs of LBM in total and his bench was up 35 lbs. Subject B however was now up 49 lbs.

PCT was followed in accordence to pheedno's PCT protocol. When all was said and done, subject A kept 19 lbs of LBM while subject B kept 40 lbs!

End stats:
Subject A:
10% bodyfat. Weight is at 229. He has a solid 400 bench.

Subject B:
11% bodyfat. Weight is at 260 Bench was at 430 for a gain of 95 lbs on his bench press!

Take this for what you will, sure there were a degree of variables in this little home done study but they were kept to a minimum, but hey, i'm not a scientist.

**big pete** · 11-08-2004, 06:26 PM

fcuk me.

that could be interesting.......

mmmm, test only cycles rock.i must admit ive done one at 1g/week for 8 weeks and went up 13-14lbs

2g may be the next barrier

**hackskii** · 11-08-2004, 07:44 PM

God, anything over 750 takes me to the Dr with high blood pressure.
Dammit, I wish I could juice hard.
I have the money but not the body. Darn.
Oh well, there is more to life than weightlifting.
Isnt there?

Z3R0-CooL · 11-08-2004, 07:48 PM

kept 40lbs ?? Fvckkkkk mee hard!!! yes.. harderr!! holy ****.... THATSSSSSSS FVKCINGGGGGGGG INSANE!!!!! lucky mofo

mark · 11-08-2004, 11:06 PM

What a lucky B*stard...... does this guy have any hair? Was he humping the arm of the sofa, hips thrusting like a Jack Russel for 8 weeks? Ok - back to my question about a what if, insane 10g/week cycle.... watch out Ronnie C here I come!!!!!

winger · 12-08-2004, 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark

What a lucky B*stard...... does this guy have any hair? Was he humping the arm of the sofa, hips thrusting like a Jack Russel for 8 weeks? Ok - back to my question about a what if, insane 10g/week cycle.... watch out Ronnie C here I come!!!!!

Mark you are one funny guy. Damn, you need to post more..........check your reputation points in the user cp. Post more fcuker............lol

**hackskii** · 12-08-2004, 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark

Ok - back to my question about a what if, insane 10g/week cycle.... watch out Ronnie C here I come!!!!!

OMG!!!!
OUCH on the heart!
Jack russle here you come!!!!

**Great White** · 12-08-2004, 10:33 AM

Please everyone reading this cycle, do not jump into a 10 week 2g cycle.

I can see ya brains ticking, and working out how many amps of ethanate you would need to do it

Well, its 80 amps!

Do you really want to be doing an 80 amp cycle yet?

Just stay wise

Paul

Z3R0-CooL · 12-08-2004, 11:11 AM

LMAO @ Paul..... imagine someone reading this that doesnt know anything doing a 2gr cycle as 1st.. LOL.....

Cheater2K · 12-08-2004, 04:47 PM

lol, i might do a 1.5g test only cycle

Panthro · 12-08-2004, 04:52 PM

VERY good post paul!

11-08-2004, 06:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
damagedgoods Looking Freaky Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wisbech Posts: 763	2G Experiment Cycle - Very interesting read.... Guys - I was reading an article on another forum - found it pretty interesting and thought you might too.... The article Here is an extract - An experiment i've conducted. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have two buddies who are at similar levels in their stats. Here are the results of the experiement (i know some may view this as immoral for subject B, but he understood the risks involved) Subject A: 24 years old, 10% bodyfat. Test levels are normal and has never run a cycle. Weight is at 210 lbs at 5 foot 8. He has a solid 365 bench. Subject B: 25 years old, 11% bodyfat. Test levels are also normal and is completely clean. Weight is at 220 at 5 foot 10. He has benched 335 clean. For subject A we agreed to put him on a standard "1st cycle", for this we used 500mg of Test enanthate (ICN's). The cycle duration is 10 weeks. For subject B we agreed to put him on a much higher test only dose, 2 grams every week of enanthate. For both subjects, shots were given in the mornings on mondays and thursdays. Their diets were clean, but rather high calories. Both took in 5000 cals and stuck to their diets 100%. Protien was kept at 500 grams. Their training schedule was as follows: Day 1. Back Day 2. Chest Day 3. Quads Day 4. Hams and calves Day 5 Shoulders Day 6 Arms Ancillieries used: Nolvadex at 10mg ed and ari at .5mg ed. By the end of the fourth week, subject A had gained 5 lbs. Subject B had gained 19 lbs. Both subjects bodyfat went up 1% Subject A's bench had stayed the same while subject B had added 15 lbs to his bench. By the end of the 8th week, subject A was up 14 lbs with the same bodyfat and subject B was up 32 lbs and his bench had jumped to 405 from 335 while subject A's bench had only crawled up 25 lbs from the start. By the tenth and final week subject A had gained 26 lbs of LBM in total and his bench was up 35 lbs. Subject B however was now up 49 lbs. PCT was followed in accordence to pheedno's PCT protocol. When all was said and done, subject A kept 19 lbs of LBM while subject B kept 40 lbs! End stats: Subject A: 10% bodyfat. Weight is at 229. He has a solid 400 bench. Subject B: 11% bodyfat. Weight is at 260 Bench was at 430 for a gain of 95 lbs on his bench press! Take this for what you will, sure there were a degree of variables in this little home done study but they were kept to a minimum, but hey, i'm not a scientist.

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11-08-2004, 06:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
big pete UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: south midlands Posts: 3,797	fcuk me. that could be interesting....... mmmm, test only cycles rock.i must admit ive done one at 1g/week for 8 weeks and went up 13-14lbs 2g may be the next barrier

11-08-2004, 07:48 PM	#4 (permalink)
Z3R0-CooL Gym Addict Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: SouthWest London Posts: 369	kept 40lbs ?? Fvckkkkk mee hard!!! yes.. harderr!! holy ****.... THATSSSSSSS FVKCINGGGGGGGG INSANE!!!!! lucky mofo

11-08-2004, 11:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
mark Getting HUGE! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: West Midlands Posts: 1,360	What a lucky B*stard...... does this guy have any hair? Was he humping the arm of the sofa, hips thrusting like a Jack Russel for 8 weeks? Ok - back to my question about a what if, insane 10g/week cycle.... watch out Ronnie C here I come!!!!!

12-08-2004, 10:33 AM	#8 (permalink)
Great White Sexy Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 9,264	Please everyone reading this cycle, do not jump into a 10 week 2g cycle. I can see ya brains ticking, and working out how many amps of ethanate you would need to do it Well, its 80 amps! Do you really want to be doing an 80 amp cycle yet? Just stay wise Paul

12-08-2004, 11:11 AM	#9 (permalink)
Z3R0-CooL Gym Addict Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: SouthWest London Posts: 369	LMAO @ Paul..... imagine someone reading this that doesnt know anything doing a 2gr cycle as 1st.. LOL.....

12-08-2004, 04:47 PM	#10 (permalink)
Cheater2K EFBB Winner Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: North Wales, UK Posts: 5,656	lol, i might do a 1.5g test only cycle

12-08-2004, 04:52 PM	#11 (permalink)
Panthro Getting HUGE! Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,509	VERY good post paul!