sico

cheers lad some good advice but why is eq not a good choice for 1st cycle ? was thinking that eq had less sides than deca so i decide on that ... i got the t-bol cause i was told i could make about 10lbs of good mucsle and to use eq instead of deca . can i use eq and test e together? was planning on hcg and clom for pct what do you guys think cheers sico

Robsta

With eq you need to high a dose to see any decent gains. Also, you will not make 10lbs of good muscle from tbol.....

sico

cheers robsta9 as i already have the eq would it harm in any way if i took it with test e say 2ml of each weekly ? what gains would you guys expect from t-bol for 5 weeks with 2ml test e and 2ml eq weekly for 10 weeks and winny for 6 weeks do you guys rekon this is an ok cycle with good gains but with the lease side effects? cheers sico

Robsta

No one can say what gains you'll get, that depends on diet, training more than what stuff you put in you mate.
Make sure you get pct sorted before you start running this cycle. Tbh I think you're wasting time running the eq. You're trying to run before you can walk imo. Stick with test on it's own or tbol-test. You haven't jabbed yet and you're already thinking like a pin cushion. Do you have pct sorted, do you know what pct is?
What is your history with training/diet? How old are you etc

sico

been training on and off for about 5 years been training solid for about 11 months now body is toned apart from abit of belly, training every other day .... pct = post cycle treatment, for the cycle i got t-bol,eq and winny i have 5000iu hcg and 48 tabs of clom. does this seem ok? would i need to add anything else as i am taking the advice of the forum and gettin some test e , i know already stated people wouldnt bother with the eq but as i have it already can i do it with the test e ? i wanna gain about 1stone all in all. my diet is ok not feeling that hungry but tryin to eat more was told eq will help appitete. i am 29 buy the way cheers sico

butcher907

Everyones suggested using test e for your 1st cycle and i think you should go with that. I am currently on week 5 of my first cycle.

Week 1 test e 500mg dbol 20mg/pd
Week 2 test e 500mg dbol 20mg/pd
Week 3 test e 500mg dbol 20mg/pd
Week 4 test e 500mg dbol 20mg/pd
Week 5 test e 500mg
Week 6 test e 500mg
Week 7 test e 500mg
Week 8 test e 500mg
Week 9 test e 500mg
Week 10 test e 500mg

appropriate PCT

Most places you look you will find that this is a simple recommended first cycle.

Now I am on week 5 with good diet and training regime. I have put on 3.5 stones - obviously this is not lean mass and I will lose some but it goes to shows that with correct diet and training you should easily put on 1 stone. I think anyone will agree that you should keep things nice and simple for your first cycle.

I hope this is helpful info for you and hope you follow everyones advice :lift:
You can always use the EQ next time!