minisam

I'm new to the forum. I was reading your posts and I see so of u r very experience with all kits. Sorry for asking you for advice, but I like to ask the best. Im 6.2 and 22.5 stone. Last gear I took 10 years ago. Im 30 now, and looking to come back to shape. I would be grateful if you could advice me what can be good for me in reduction fat and shape my self. I was thinking about HGH, dont have a problem with financial aspect of HGH even for 12 months, but would like to know ur opinion. Was looking on Humatrope but dont know any one in UK selling it, only Jintropin (and as I can see have to be carefull with fakes). I'm in the gym 5 x ew, for last 5 months. Not taking any stuff now. But I feel ready for a good "treatment". Please any advice will be helpful.

Adam

Harry

What's your body fat, guessing it's pretty high.

Cardio AM on empty stomach and good diet is obviously the best way to go.

Personally wouldn't even think about anything else until my bodyfat was down as I can imagine the strain on your heart. As for HGH I'll leave that to someone who has used it.

minisam

It is around 25%, but I couldnt check it properly. I'm not fat if you know what I mean to compare to normal person with same weight and high, I'm just "big" ... I have "heavy bones" if this make any idea.

I know so HGH using for 4-6 weeks without any anabolics reducing so much body fat, and this is my target. 4-6 weeks only HGH and after this proper HGH cyckle with insuline, t-3 and all lot.

But need pro advice on it.

Thanks for any attention.

Adam

beequeth

Adam, I dont think you will get any benefit at all runnung HGH for 6 weeks.
Some people say that will help in fat loss, but at your BF it will not be noticeable.
Don't go near insulin unless you now EXACTLY what your doing mate. It'll either put you into a coma or make you fat if used incorrectly.

As Harry said above, best bet to shift the body fat will be morning cardio and a good strict diet.

Try a search in the diet section for carb-cycling and keto type diets.

When you have the above two points nailed your BF will drop nicely.

Also, dont expect quick results, take it slow. IMO at least 16 weeks before your going to start to see your abs.

If your desperate for chemical assistance take a look at ECA stacks.

Good Luck Mate.

Harry

Great post beequeth, and agree even with my limited knowlegde of HGH it does need to be run for a long period to see results.

minisam

Thanks for you answer. The 6 weeks period for fat burn I have from several forums about humatrope. I'm not saying so I would like take gh for only 6 weeks, because it's pointles, what I mean is 6 weeks for fat burn, and after about 6 months with testa and t-3.

I know so insuline can be very danger, but I will have a nurse checking all my sugar level etc. results daily.

Don't take it wrong please, I'm not looking for advice on diet and carb-cyckling, I have decide so I'm going for juice, but what I like to know (last time I was on cyckle in 1998) what is the best now, which gear for fat burning and shaping.

I'm on diet and I'm loosing some fat but its not this what I want to achieve.

Days changed, loads of new gears which I dont know. In my times was deca, test, meta, vini and not much else ...

Oryginaly I'm from Poland and at this time (1996-1998) I didn't have alot of contacts to get other stuff.

If not hgh then maybe something else what I dont know about.

Thank you for your time and sorry for my english few posts more and you will understnd me more ...

Adam

Harry

As you know no gear will help you lose BF that's down to diet and cardio. What will burn BF is OTC fat burners there are some pretty good ones out there, or as suggested ECA's. If you looking at running gear the a simple Test to hold LBM but most the gear you have mentioned is still around and as good today.

So if you are going to go the gear route then maybe 500mg Test Sust or Enth running ECA and cardio, or a OTC Fat burner instead of ECA.

beequeth

Adam, I think you know that no AAS will burn fat for you on its own.

If you have used gear before, and want to use while dieting I would suggest something simple like Test propionate. This will enable you hold onto most of your muscle while dieting.
There are other AAS which may help you, but IMO, shift the fat first.
I'm sure other people will advise you better oral AAS you could use.

Also, if your going to use compounds such as T3 you will benefit from the AAS to cut down on muscle catoblism.

IMO, its still mostly down to diet and cardio. The Shaping your talking about will take place as your BF lowers and your existing muscles become more vissible.

I assume that you a weight training as well as doing cardio.

beequeth

OOOOOOOO good advice and you beat me to it. Damn slow typing skills.

funbos

be carefull with GH and inluline ( insline isnt good for someone who dont know how to play with it ) if you want to burn fat try this

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LEWXVaxq9UY

or run t3 and clen

minisam

Thanks funbos, do u think so stuff like this can really work? Did u try it?

Big_Dan

minisam , my advice to u mate , is to have a chat with paul Scarb !!

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minisam

Thanks Big_Dan, I will ...