Newbie ish person got a cycle planned but would like some advice please? - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

R1dd1ck · 01-02-2008, 01:55 PM

Hello there, hope all are well? Now ive been out of my diet and training for about 4 months now, and more or less lost all my gains ( which werent much anyway to start with but i got them which means something )

Anyway less of me rambling on, I am starting to train again next week and i am wanting to use T120+ but im not sure when to start them into my routine, should i only leave it four weeks or longer?

Here is my cycle, any comments on changes or that i'm damn right stupid would be nice.

start off then:

8 weeks T120+ ( standard dose )

For PCT 5 weeks Nolva 20mg ed
3 weeks Clomid 50mg for 3 weeks alongside Nolva

Rest for 8 weeks

Then after that, same again but with doubled dosage (if i don't see any gains on the first time round) of t120+

Also, my missus has a few worries about my system becoming infertile as she will be wanting some sproggs at some point.

I would be very much abliged for a very safe but very effective cycle, ive read the stickies on starting cycles and the side effects about high dosages or too long a cycle can cause serious issues.

All your help and advice is thanked in advance!
How long would you say i need to be into my routine and diet before starting these? Ive been out for a bout 3 - 4 months, so should i give it a month or 6 month?

R1dd1ck · 01-02-2008, 02:30 PM

Please peeps, its driving me nuts not knowing which is the best option :(

**Robsta** · 01-02-2008, 02:36 PM

Not sure what sci-mentor is mate....

R1dd1ck · 01-02-2008, 02:39 PM

its a ph.

NeilpWest · 01-02-2008, 02:48 PM

pm'd you mate. Robsta its just like m1t but not as harsh still a pro-hormone though.

R1dd1ck · 01-02-2008, 03:30 PM

Ok, how does this affect your sex drive or reaching anything when your on it?

**hackskii** · 01-02-2008, 06:18 PM

I would suggest that you get back into your diet and training first, you will be able to take advantage of muscle memory and get all that you lost back quickly, without any gear.
Once things start to stall then you can switch gears.

R1dd1ck · 01-02-2008, 06:19 PM

ok sound. do i need to add anything else into my pct or is that enough?

**hackskii** · 01-02-2008, 06:47 PM

I am not even sure I know what it is you are suggesting to take.
Got a link somewhere to this product?

Big_Dan · 01-02-2008, 06:48 PM

get training and diet back first !!
people think that pumping gear into them will
help ,
but it just ends up causing long term damage !!

R1dd1ck · 01-02-2008, 06:56 PM

hers the link mate.

http://www.thesupplementstore.co.uk/t120.htm

yea, im going to leave it about 6 month before i do anything and make sure ive got a good base to start one.

R1dd1ck · 01-02-2008, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big_Dan

get training and diet back first !!
people think that pumping gear into them will
help ,
but it just ends up causing long term damage !!

Im not just ing to dive in bro, i wouldn't until ive got a good amount of training behind me.

Merouria · 03-02-2008, 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R1dd1ck

Hello there, hope all are well? Now ive been out of my diet and training for about 4 months now, and more or less lost all my gains ( which werent much anyway to start with but i got them which means something )

Anyway less of me rambling on, I am starting to train again next week and i am wanting to use T120+ but im not sure when to start them into my routine, should i only leave it four weeks or longer?

Here is my cycle, any comments on changes or that i'm damn right stupid would be nice.

start off then:

8 weeks T120+ ( standard dose )

For PCT 5 weeks Nolva 20mg ed
3 weeks Clomid 50mg for 3 weeks alongside Nolva

Rest for 8 weeks

Then after that, same again but with doubled dosage (if i don't see any gains on the first time round) of t120+

Also, my missus has a few worries about my system becoming infertile as she will be wanting some sproggs at some point.

I would be very much abliged for a very safe but very effective cycle, ive read the stickies on starting cycles and the side effects about high dosages or too long a cycle can cause serious issues.

All your help and advice is thanked in advance!
How long would you say i need to be into my routine and diet before starting these? Ive been out for a bout 3 - 4 months, so should i give it a month or 6 month?

Hey mate, you say you are going on for 8 weeks standard dose, which is 4 tabs a day. In one tub you get 15 days worth so you will need 4 tubs to complete an 8 week cycle mate! And you are talking silly money doubling the dose at 8 weeks on 2nd cycle! I wouldnt mind trying it though lol! Your cycle info looks good mate.

R1dd1ck · 03-02-2008, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merouria

Hey mate, you say you are going on for 8 weeks standard dose, which is 4 tabs a day. In one tub you get 15 days worth so you will need 4 tubs to complete an 8 week cycle mate! And you are talking silly money doubling the dose at 8 weeks on 2nd cycle! I wouldnt mind trying it though lol! Your cycle info looks good mate.

I believe2 tabs a day is standard dose, 4 is doubled, but im just gunna start on 4 tabs a day and take the ids stuff for 8 weeks alongside it.

then my pct.

R1dd1ck · 05-02-2008, 05:24 PM

can i just ask should i wait till my body hits its genetic peak before using ph or gear? Ive read so any different sides, sayin wait, dont wait!

Im 22 year old, and body is fairly leveled out now.

Also would it be a good idea putting milk thistle into my pct? when wud i use it?

01-02-2008, 01:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
R1dd1ck Just starting back up after 5 months out! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ont moors in Yorkshire like! Posts: 119	Newbie ish person got a cycle planned but would like some advice please? Hello there, hope all are well? Now ive been out of my diet and training for about 4 months now, and more or less lost all my gains ( which werent much anyway to start with but i got them which means something ) Anyway less of me rambling on, I am starting to train again next week and i am wanting to use T120+ but im not sure when to start them into my routine, should i only leave it four weeks or longer? Here is my cycle, any comments on changes or that i'm damn right stupid would be nice. start off then: 8 weeks T120+ ( standard dose ) For PCT 5 weeks Nolva 20mg ed 3 weeks Clomid 50mg for 3 weeks alongside Nolva Rest for 8 weeks Then after that, same again but with doubled dosage (if i don't see any gains on the first time round) of t120+ Also, my missus has a few worries about my system becoming infertile as she will be wanting some sproggs at some point. I would be very much abliged for a very safe but very effective cycle, ive read the stickies on starting cycles and the side effects about high dosages or too long a cycle can cause serious issues. All your help and advice is thanked in advance! How long would you say i need to be into my routine and diet before starting these? Ive been out for a bout 3 - 4 months, so should i give it a month or 6 month? Last edited by R1dd1ck; 01-02-2008 at 02:50 PM.

01-02-2008, 02:30 PM	#2 (permalink)
R1dd1ck Just starting back up after 5 months out! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ont moors in Yorkshire like! Posts: 119	Re: Newbie ish person got a cycle planned but would like some advice please? Please peeps, its driving me nuts not knowing which is the best option :(

01-02-2008, 02:36 PM	#3 (permalink)
Robsta UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In The Shire Posts: 10,536	Re: Newbie ish person got a cycle planned but would like some advice please? Not sure what sci-mentor is mate....

01-02-2008, 02:39 PM	#4 (permalink)
R1dd1ck Just starting back up after 5 months out! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ont moors in Yorkshire like! Posts: 119	Re: Newbie ish person got a cycle planned but would like some advice please? its a ph.

01-02-2008, 02:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
NeilpWest Has lost alot of muscle mass but is now back on track! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Essex Posts: 953	Re: Newbie ish person got a cycle planned but would like some advice please? pm'd you mate. Robsta its just like m1t but not as harsh still a pro-hormone though.

01-02-2008, 03:30 PM	#6 (permalink)
R1dd1ck Just starting back up after 5 months out! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ont moors in Yorkshire like! Posts: 119	Re: Newbie ish person got a cycle planned but would like some advice please? Ok, how does this affect your sex drive or reaching anything when your on it?

01-02-2008, 06:18 PM	#7 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 30,062	Re: Newbie ish person got a cycle planned but would like some advice please? I would suggest that you get back into your diet and training first, you will be able to take advantage of muscle memory and get all that you lost back quickly, without any gear. Once things start to stall then you can switch gears. __________________ Power over others is weakness disguised as strength. Scott

01-02-2008, 06:19 PM	#8 (permalink)
R1dd1ck Just starting back up after 5 months out! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ont moors in Yorkshire like! Posts: 119	Re: Newbie ish person got a cycle planned but would like some advice please? ok sound. do i need to add anything else into my pct or is that enough?

01-02-2008, 06:47 PM	#9 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 30,062	Re: Newbie ish person got a cycle planned but would like some advice please? I am not even sure I know what it is you are suggesting to take. Got a link somewhere to this product? __________________ Power over others is weakness disguised as strength. Scott

01-02-2008, 06:48 PM	#10 (permalink)
Big_Dan getting huge ! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: wales Posts: 490	Re: Newbie ish person got a cycle planned but would like some advice please? get training and diet back first !! people think that pumping gear into them will help , but it just ends up causing long term damage !!

01-02-2008, 06:56 PM	#11 (permalink)
R1dd1ck Just starting back up after 5 months out! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ont moors in Yorkshire like! Posts: 119	Re: Newbie ish person got a cycle planned but would like some advice please? hers the link mate. http://www.thesupplementstore.co.uk/t120.htm yea, im going to leave it about 6 month before i do anything and make sure ive got a good base to start one.

05-02-2008, 05:24 PM	#15 (permalink)
R1dd1ck Just starting back up after 5 months out! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ont moors in Yorkshire like! Posts: 119	Re: Newbie ish person got a cycle planned but would like some advice please? can i just ask should i wait till my body hits its genetic peak before using ph or gear? Ive read so any different sides, sayin wait, dont wait! Im 22 year old, and body is fairly leveled out now. Also would it be a good idea putting milk thistle into my pct? when wud i use it?

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