ash5677

I'm currently on my second week of a test enan and tren ace cycle and all is going well.

The one problem i have is my body fat is alot higher than i would like it to be, so therefore would like to drop some fat in the last 6 weeks of my cycle.

I'm 25, 6ft, 15.8 stone and 20.4% BF at the moment.

I'm running a 8 week course laid out as follows....

Week 1-8 Test enan @ 500mg, Tren ace @ 225mg

Have all my pct ready and im using 500iu hcg E5D.

Im planning on doing the 2 week on, 2week off cycle with clen, starting at 20mcg daily and building it up to 80mcg daily depending on sides.

On the weeks off clen i will be doing an ECA stack of 20mg Eph-200mg Caff (no asprin) daily, building that dose up to 3 times daily.

So it would look like this....

Week-1 Clen 20mcg - 80mcg

Week-2 Clen 80mcg

Week-3 Eph 20mg - Caff 200mg, 3 times daily.

Week-4 Eph 20mg - Caff 200mg, 3 times daily.

And then the same 4 week cycle over again taking me to week 8.

My daily food intake consists of..

Carbs 170g

Fat 60g

Protein 260g

Kcal 2200

Should i be cutting down on any of these, dont really want to affect my training. Or would i just be better waiting till the end of my cycle and then running the clen and eca?

Thanks for your time guys.

ash5677

Any one! Please.

Great White

hello mate.

I always run Clen, T3/t4 and a far burner (using Lipo6x at the mo) when on a cycle.

It just helps with the calorie increase, just keeps the edge off imho.


The T3/T4 will also help with protein syntasis.

I wouldnt worry toooo much about fat levels when on a cycle if your looking to bulk up.

There will come a stage where you are sacrificing muscle gains for fat gains.

Remember, you can always start to cut the fat off once you finish your PCT.

If your looking to bulk when on cycle, then eat big.

Play it on a week-by-week. If you feel you are getting to much body fat then lower the carbs a little.

If you feel your gaining well without any body fat change then increase the protein a little.

If you keep your cardio up and the meds as mentioned above, when on cycle there is no reason why you shouldnt achive what you want.

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Bro not to seem like an ass but i think your diet is what needs looking at, every one loses bf when starting test its just one of its affects along with tren i say ditch the heart dangerous clen and get some t3 throughout.
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Ukmuscle has given you a great reply.

hackskii

I agree with con on this one.
Diet is the most important thing when trying to lose fat.
That actually seems like a low amount of food and with that amount you should be losing anyway.
I would not rely on a stimulant to do what the diet is supposed to do.
If the diet isnt nailed, I dont care what you take to make up the diffrence there wont be a diffrence, well not like you would want anyway.

Now that you are on a pretty decent cycle the risk of catabolism during dieting is almost nothing, in the environment you are in, diet is the best right now.

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ash5677

Thanks for the advice guys, think I'm just getting a bit too eager to bulk,
and try to cut at the same time just to see the results straight away and i know it doesn't work like that.

Will run my AAS cycle to the end without using the clen or eca, and just keep an eye on my body fat, adjusting carb and protein intake until i find the best gains with the least body fat increase.

Once i finish my cycle and pct i will then run the clen and ECA cycle i had planned along with a better cutting diet rather than trying to combine them together.

Never used T3, how would you run it and what changes would you make to put it in the clen/ECA cycle i posted earlier.

thanks.

hackskii

Hell, I would run the T-3 with HGH, but that is just how I roll......lol
Small amounts of T-3 are anabolic 12.5mcg-25mcg, above that it can be catabolic but not with the gear you are using.
So, you can run up to around 100mcg.
I have used T-3 before but not very high.
Bump for someone with more experiance with T-3 like PScarb.

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