16x21 T-Bol Cycle - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

SCJP · 13-01-2008, 08:58 PM

Gents,

I'm toying with the idea of trying t-bol in a 16 days on, 21 days off cycle, for an indefinite period of time (posibly 1 yr+, dependant on many factors).

The starting dosage would be 10mg per day, increasing by 5mg per day for each mini cycle, if/as necessary for gains.

Any comments?

If I proceeded with the above, I'd use milk thistle for liver health & saw palmetto for the prostate - or is this a waste of time at such a low dosage?

I don't anticpate any PCT being necessary with such a cycle, however if I did go ahead with it (the cycle) a blood test would be carried out beforehand & at regular intervals thereafter (say every six months). Any comments on this aspect of the plan?

Thanks.

mars1960 · 13-01-2008, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SCJP

Gents,

I'm toying with the idea of trying t-bol in a 16 days on, 21 days off cycle, for an indefinite period of time (posibly 1 yr+, dependant on many factors).

The starting dosage would be 10mg per day, increasing by 5mg per day for each mini cycle, if/as necessary for gains.

Any comments?

If I proceeded with the above, I'd use milk thistle for liver health & saw palmetto for the prostate - or is this a waste of time at such a low dosage?

I don't anticpate any PCT being necessary with such a cycle, however if I did go ahead with it (the cycle) a blood test would be carried out beforehand & at regular intervals thereafter (say every six months). Any comments on this aspect of the plan?

Thanks.

Well nothing wrong with taking it easy, but what you propose is so mild i wouldn't expect to see much in the way of gains in either the strength or size department, personally i don't think this is the way to go, why? long cycle tow toxicity? or just curious?

SCJP · 13-01-2008, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mars1960

Well nothing wrong with taking it easy, but what you propose is so mild i wouldn't expect to see much in the way of gains in either the strength or size department, personally i don't think this is the way to go, why? long cycle tow toxicity? or just curious?

The other option was to go for a 50-70mg per day t-bol cylce, or 250mg test enan pw, with the oral or injectable component then being added for a second cycle, dependant on gains, sides, etc.

My current thinking would be to go for a very weak cycle just to give me a little extra push, rather than significant gains.

I don't expect 10mg to work & would more than likely be adding 5mg to the second 16 day period, but I might be wrong, which would be nice.

**Robsta** · 13-01-2008, 09:16 PM

tbh tbol is best run at least 50 mg per day, I copuldn't see you getting much in the way of anything less....remember the sides are minimal with tbol..

NeilpWest · 13-01-2008, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SCJP

Gents,

I'm toying with the idea of trying t-bol in a 16 days on, 21 days off cycle, for an indefinite period of time (posibly 1 yr+, dependant on many factors).

The starting dosage would be 10mg per day, increasing by 5mg per day for each mini cycle, if/as necessary for gains.

Any comments?

If I proceeded with the above, I'd use milk thistle for liver health & saw palmetto for the prostate - or is this a waste of time at such a low dosage?

I don't anticpate any PCT being necessary with such a cycle, however if I did go ahead with it (the cycle) a blood test would be carried out beforehand & at regular intervals thereafter (say every six months). Any comments on this aspect of the plan?

Thanks.

From what i know about tbol 10mg ed will not give any results. Dbol only gives minor results at that amount and tbol you need much more. Theres nothing wrong with experimenting but i wouldnt throw your money away though if you want to do tbol i would go for 6weeks at 50-80mg ed with a pct this should yeild pretty good results. If you want to go for running it at a year then you may not start to see gains until you hit a higher dosage. If you go ahead with it do a log on here so we can see how it goes would be interesting to follow.

**Robsta** · 13-01-2008, 09:19 PM

I personally am running tbol at 100 mg ed at the moment stacked with tren, test, deca, ...

**Robsta** · 13-01-2008, 09:19 PM

oh and slin gh pwo

NeilpWest · 13-01-2008, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by robsta9

oh and slin gh pwo

lol you getting good results at 100mg ed of the tbol big guy. Looks like a good cycle

SCJP · 13-01-2008, 09:25 PM

Maybe I'll chuck some drol & halo into the mix aswell....

In all seriousness, I'm not expecting much, if anything (& at this volume it's not going to bankrupt me), but would soon enough hope to find the 'biting point' at which gains do become apparent. If this point is looking to occur at a dosage of 30-40mg+, I think it would be most sensible to revert to either a more 'traditional' t-bol cycle or try d-bol at a low dosage.

**Robsta** · 13-01-2008, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by NeilpWest

lol you getting good results at 100mg ed of the tbol big guy. Looks like a good cycle

I only started this week, but I always start and finish a cycle with tbol

NeilpWest · 13-01-2008, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by robsta9

I only started this week, but I always start and finish a cycle with tbol

interesting i was thinking of doing that later this year how long do your use the tbol for at the beginning and end 4 or 6weeks.

TH&S · 13-01-2008, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mars1960

Well nothing wrong with taking it easy, but what you propose is so mild i wouldn't expect to see much in the way of gains in either the strength or size department, personally i don't think this is the way to go, why? long cycle tow toxicity? or just curious?

Did you read the DBol Day Thread? All 43 pages of it?

14x14 at low doses was shown to be effective - it wasn't just as simple as a 14x14 cycle - Cookie did throw in some extras (i.e. supps such as creatine were run on the 14 off)

**Robsta** · 13-01-2008, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by NeilpWest

interesting i was thinking of doing that later this year how long do your use the tbol for at the beginning and end 4 or 6weeks.

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mars1960 · 13-01-2008, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TH&S

Did you read the DBol Day Thread? All 43 pages of it?

14x14 at low doses was shown to be effective - it wasn't just as simple as a 14x14 cycle - Cookie did throw in some extras (i.e. supps such as creatine were run on the 14 off)

Yea mate, been following that for months, but were talking tbol i think,
you been on the sauce tonight lol.

SCJP · 13-01-2008, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TH&S

Cookie did throw in some extras (i.e. supps such as creatine were run on the 14 off)

In the 'off' periods I'll be avoiding all but the most basic of supps (ZMA, fish oils, whey & poss glutamine).

13-01-2008, 08:58 PM	#1 (permalink)
SCJP Looking Freaky Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SW Herts Posts: 896	16x21 T-Bol Cycle Gents, I'm toying with the idea of trying t-bol in a 16 days on, 21 days off cycle, for an indefinite period of time (posibly 1 yr+, dependant on many factors). The starting dosage would be 10mg per day, increasing by 5mg per day for each mini cycle, if/as necessary for gains. Any comments? If I proceeded with the above, I'd use milk thistle for liver health & saw palmetto for the prostate - or is this a waste of time at such a low dosage? I don't anticpate any PCT being necessary with such a cycle, however if I did go ahead with it (the cycle) a blood test would be carried out beforehand & at regular intervals thereafter (say every six months). Any comments on this aspect of the plan? Thanks.

13-01-2008, 09:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
Robsta Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bedford Posts: 4,822	Re: 16x21 T-Bol Cycle tbh tbol is best run at least 50 mg per day, I copuldn't see you getting much in the way of anything less....remember the sides are minimal with tbol.. __________________ Robsta

13-01-2008, 09:19 PM	#6 (permalink)
Robsta Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bedford Posts: 4,822	Re: 16x21 T-Bol Cycle I personally am running tbol at 100 mg ed at the moment stacked with tren, test, deca, ... __________________ Robsta

13-01-2008, 09:19 PM	#7 (permalink)
Robsta Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bedford Posts: 4,822	Re: 16x21 T-Bol Cycle oh and slin gh pwo __________________ Robsta

13-01-2008, 09:25 PM	#9 (permalink)
SCJP Looking Freaky Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SW Herts Posts: 896	Re: 16x21 T-Bol Cycle Maybe I'll chuck some drol & halo into the mix aswell.... In all seriousness, I'm not expecting much, if anything (& at this volume it's not going to bankrupt me), but would soon enough hope to find the 'biting point' at which gains do become apparent. If this point is looking to occur at a dosage of 30-40mg+, I think it would be most sensible to revert to either a more 'traditional' t-bol cycle or try d-bol at a low dosage.

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