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Old 13-01-2008, 10:23 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: 16x21 T-Bol Cycle

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Yea mate, been following that for months, but were talking tbol i think,
you been on the sauce tonight lol.
Yeah but the concept woukd still work with all low dose orals.

And was that you peeking through my window....? :rolleye11
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Old 13-01-2008, 10:31 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Yeah but the concept woukd still work with all low dose orals.

And was that you peeking through my window....? :rolleye11
Yea for sure, it would work just as well with tbol, but 10mg ED is a bit too low, i think i'd be more inclined to run it at 40mg ED on the 14x14.

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i think i'd be more inclined to run it at 40mg ED on the 14x14.
What are your thoughts on shutdown at this level?
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What are your thoughts on shutdown at this level?
Ive never ran the 14x14, though i like the idea.
You need someone who's ran it to really answer that.
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What are your thoughts on shutdown at this level?

I'm sure there have been studie(s) done showing t-bol won't shut you down over 2 weeks @30mg but this is just off memory.
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Re: 16x21 T-Bol Cycle

the west germans have loads of studies on tbol,after all they invented the compound for their athletes and anything from germany is usually good
ive turned to tbol in stead of winny as everyone talks highly of it but not at low doses only doses of 4-6weeks 80mg a day and love the results.
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Gents,

I'm toying with the idea of trying t-bol in a 16 days on, 21 days off cycle, for an indefinite period of time (posibly 1 yr+, dependant on many factors).

The starting dosage would be 10mg per day, increasing by 5mg per day for each mini cycle, if/as necessary for gains.

Any comments?

If I proceeded with the above, I'd use milk thistle for liver health & saw palmetto for the prostate - or is this a waste of time at such a low dosage?

I don't anticpate any PCT being necessary with such a cycle, however if I did go ahead with it (the cycle) a blood test would be carried out beforehand & at regular intervals thereafter (say every six months). Any comments on this aspect of the plan?

Thanks.

i like the idea..................the 16x21 is something i discussed with cookie and also CX at the time liked those numbers

when i did 14x14 everyone said it wouldnt work and doses wheree too low..............but at end of day facts and figures proved all that wrong

so why wouldnt the same be said for what you are proposing

infact i talked about doing something similar a few months ago and will proably do similar soon

as usual there are always idiots that look at this sort of cycl and without even trying it "poo Poo" the idea.........
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Re: 16x21 T-Bol Cycle

I guess it depends what your aims are, if you want to long term increase size, like you said, over a year, then surely taking a steriod, not matter how low the dose, is going to help. If you want serious size gains in a short ammount of time then a more traditional cycle would be more suited.

Out of interest Samurai, did you ever get your natural test levels check when on your cycle, I dont recall them in your thread.
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Re: 16x21 T-Bol Cycle

Tbh, if you are going to take gear, you are going to get sides, different gear = different sides, but it's a fact you have to accept.
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