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tren outcomes

ive recently started tren for the 1st time ever im running a lowish dose with test and cant really say ive noticed anything different to deca which has always been my choice up till now.

im eating less as im remaining lean incase i show this year but still not reall big strength gains not more vascualr look as some said i would get......and oddly enough no sides really im not angry nor spotty ect

its an ok cycle im looking good but i did expect more from something 5 times more anabolic than deca

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Re: tren outcomes

I think you will notice a small increase in strength and a harder look but deca would help you gain more weight on the scales due to water retention associated with it, muscle gains would be similar dependant on dose and diet etc
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Re: tren outcomes

I know some might jump on this but I dont really see anywhere the same gains when using tren ace compared to enanthate.

Ace is OK, enan was awesome
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i was using a mix short and long estered tren

now im opting for straight longer estered tren as the sus is in full flow it seems to make more sence to me

how long did you find before the tren really kicked in
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Re: tren outcomes

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ive recently started tren for the 1st time ever im running a lowish dose with test and cant really say ive noticed anything different to deca which has always been my choice up till now.

im eating less as im remaining lean incase i show this year but still not reall big strength gains not more vascualr look as some said i would get......and oddly enough no sides really im not angry nor spotty ect

its an ok cycle im looking good but i did expect more from something 5 times more anabolic than deca

any views??
Maybe the dose is too low for you???
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Re: tren outcomes

What Dosage are you running?

I used HS Tren on my last cycle and it was awsome - I ran with 500mg WK.

Strength went through the roof, breaking most PB`s.

I know when I ran tren a few years back at a lower dosage I didnt see much from it (300mg WK i think)
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Re: tren outcomes

im running 300mg a week splitt mon wed thurs

i have been performing well with legs but i normally do make improvements here on cycles
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i normally run 200mg of deca with simular test dosages with as good results, after reading up on tren i thought it wise to sart at 300mg and at the anabolic ratings expected a big difference to deca durabolin
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i normally run 200mg of deca with simular test dosages with as good results, after reading up on tren i thought it wise to sart at 300mg and at the anabolic ratings expected a big difference to deca durabolin
cool, just thought i'd ask and make sure..lol
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Re: tren outcomes

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ive recently started tren for the 1st time ever im running a lowish dose with test and cant really say ive noticed anything different to deca which has always been my choice up till now.

im eating less as im remaining lean incase i show this year but still not reall big strength gains not more vascualr look as some said i would get......and oddly enough no sides really im not angry nor spotty ect

its an ok cycle im looking good but i did expect more from something 5 times more anabolic than deca

any views??
You wont necessarily gain much weight on the scales with tren, it seems to act as a body re comp agent, you gain muscle, lose fat, look much harder, (assuming your lean), and get stronger, but the actual scales may not change much.

300mg is a pretty low dose TBH, not even 50mg per day, esp if it is a mix of longer heavier esters too.

I would up it to 400mg, and I think that will make a difference.

Also how long since you started it, I find the 2-3 week mark is where I start to look good, and want to kill everyone.
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What i get; Leaness, aggressive, great pumps, vascularity.

What I don't get; Great strength gain, weight gain.
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Re: tren outcomes

when using 450mg/wk BD tritren , strength gains we very good , took my PB on bench to 400lb , 6 reps.

didn't get much weight gain or very aggressive.

If i didn't keep my water intake very high , i did get very dark urine.
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i will be starting 75mg-1ml eod for 3 weeks starting on monday, will let you know how i get on.
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I gained 20 pounds in the last 6 weeks on tren ace and test prop.
And really not eating as much as most body builders , but deffinatly eating lots and lots of meat.
Cant imagine what tren enan must be like.
Is it really that much better?????
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how long have you been on it?
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