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Pscarb.

I forgot to ask. Do you see any correlation between the elevated liver values on tren with the fact that is contains relatively high content of Benzyl Alcohol? Or did ur tren mix didnt contain BA?

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well i cannot say how much if any BA the tren i used had in it i am no chemist and in that i cannot say if the BA had any effect on the liver values...

I really cannot believe that you did 12 weeks on 500mg of Test a week and had no suppression and your LH values where normal? what where your Test and FSH values??

suppression of the HPTA starts after the first 2 weeks of any cycle on some it is sooner so please forgive me when i say i do not believe you was not shutdown at all but i cannot prove otherwise and to be fair i dont want to if you believe you was not shutdown then fair enough......i would like to hear HackSkii veiw on that though as he knows more about the subject than me..

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Five-O

Ill lend you a shovel as you are totally missing my points.

You say one thing and then another.

Id like to see any blood work results you had regarding the cycle where you didn't get shut down, your gear was either fake or you have a genetic gift.

Whooo..I see you've been on here two years before me - Am I right in thinking this is the only forum around....:crazy:

The fact your taking advice from ppl on MT worries me for a start....was that from PB by any chance

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Jimmy

i dont believe anyone can use tren (nandrolone derivative) without shutdown

zcool, i think you are mistaken buddy....or just have massive balls

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All tren will contain BA.

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pscarb Here are the lab results from previous cycle.

1) Taken @ week 9 of cycle

Cholesterol: 125 mg/dl scale of 100-200
Triglyceride: 95 mg/dl scale of 0-140
HDL: 57 mg/dl scale 40-59
LDL: 28 mg/dl scale of 0-99
Free Testosterone: 89 pg/ml scale 9.4-26.5
Serum/Total Testosterone: 1349 ng/ml scale 241-823
LH: 5.1 mIU/ml scale 1.5-9.3
FSH: 7 IU/l scale 5-15

And thyroid as well as liver and kidneys.. should i post those?

2) taken After Cycle before PCT

Cholesterol: 113 mg/dl scale of 100-200
Triglyceride: 98 mg/dl scale of 0-140
HDL: 58 mg/dl scale 40-59
LDL: 19 mg/dl scale of 0-99
Free Testosterone: 31 pg/ml scale 9.4-26.5
Serum/Total Testosterone: 938 ng/ml scale 241-823
LH: 4.3 mIU/ml scale 1.5-9.3
FSH: 9 IU/l scale 5-15

3) taken 2 weeks after PCT
Cholesterol: 156 mg/dl scale of 100-200
Triglyceride: 93 mg/dl scale of 0-140
HDL: 49 mg/dl scale 40-59
LDL: 41 mg/dl scale of 0-99
Free Testosterone: 14.1 pg/ml scale 9.4-26.5
Serum/Total Testosterone: 567 ng/ml scale 241-823
LH: 7.4 mIU/ml scale 1.5-9.3
FSH: 9 IU/l scale 5-15

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wasnt using tren mate .. and no my balls are small :P just joking..... my endocrinologist said that they are approx of 4mL . dont know what that means though... maybe someone could said sum light on that one

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apparently there is tren that uses BB instead of BA... havent seen any around though. Read that on USA forum

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no point arguing then mate is there as im not trying to convince you. You have ur opinions and i have mine. not trying to force my ones onto you.. tbh couldnt care less..

MT much like any other board has ppl taking ****e and has ppl that know their ****e.. who is PB??? i dont know who he is so no i dont take advice from PB

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All tren will use both, I am not getting into the chemistry on an open forum, but trust me on that.

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Con

If you say it mate then its true:beer1:

Didnt get shut down at all i like that send me some of that olive oil i mean test my way please

jjb1

ive read on here that people have got there missis pregnant on cycles so they cant be to shut down can they?

so in terms of all your own usage whats the best tren and why?

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Yeah some get their missus preggers, I think its normally early cycle tohuhg when libido is high and the HPTA is still functioning "slightly"

I like acetate because it acts quickly, Ive run enanthate but it does seem to take longer to kick in.

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jjb1

yea im thinking id like to try act seems bloody strong ... nice ;-)

you did 75mg eod with some test right?

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